Wife and my Dad

[elina]

Dave,

Thanks for sharing everything,
You are what you are and your courage of accepting everything as is and sharing it with all of us is really appreciated by me and probably many others.

To me reading this makes me believe two things;
1) you are a hardwired cuck - you derrive pleasure from being humiliated by the woman you love taking another lover.
2) you are probably very submissive.

While I think it may be good for you to get some pussy soon just to take some pressure off yourself, I think for the longer term you really ought to consider if you should not start looking for a Dominant Woman who from the start will accept you for whom you are and where both of you know that you will serve Her and submitt to Her and She will dominate you, cuck you, and not hiding anything from you.

Sincerely
Elina

[mickey151947]

Hi Dave,

Feel sad for you about whateve happened. I just skimmed thru your thread. It was sad that she did not tell you the true extent of her feelings for him but did not read anywhere her telling you that she was screwing him before you mentioned your fantasy to her.... or did i skip something?
Anyways truly sorry for you man
May you get the strength to go thru with this
stay strong

[sergio27]

Dave :

Thank you for continuing to share your story with us. Do not stop please.

[two4fun]

I personally wouldn't let this whole outcome stop me from trying to fuck her again if the time was right. But that's just me.

[bubbajack]

Dave, your situation has some affinities with experiences I had during the time my ex-wife was slowly, agonizingly drifting beyond the gravitational pull of our relationship and into an orbit around the other guy exclusively.

One of the really weird-seeming effects on me was the opening up of a neural pathway in my brain that linked her "giving it all" to him to my getting an erection that would not go away unless I jacked it off.

I will say that we had done some hotwife-like adventuring (this was decades ago) and I really enjoyed watching her fuck others then fucking her myself, although I was never in the slightest degree interested in having her become another's or deny me in any way. And so it was strange and confusing to me that her going away permanently would have the effect of turning that neural switch into the "on" position. Painful, too.

But that effect faded pretty quickly and died quite suddenly as soon as I wandered into the gravitational filed of a woman I wanted to fuck who wasn't the old one.

So I would counsel you to continue being alert to the perturbations occurring within your internal systems which have at least some of their causes attributable to the external shock of your wife fucking your Dad and leaving you for him.

Of course the shape of those perturbations is related to your own nature in some way - but I think pronouncements of an existential character on "who" or especially "what" in essence you "are" are premature and that you ought to give it some time before jumping to any conclusions about yourself just because there are paradoxical-seeming reactions taking place within your battered emotional and neural circuitry.

[curiousdave]

Thanks elina and bubbajack. I appreciate the well thought out advice and of course the caring.

[curiousdave]

I personally wouldn't let this whole outcome stop me from trying to fuck her again if the time was right. But that's just me.

Seriously doubt I will ever get the chance again but if I did somehow I wouldn't pass it up for the world.

[Cancun]

You should write a book CD. You skill as a wordsmith and your real life experiences would make good reading to folks interested in the cuckold lifestyle, or maybe even to the "regular folks" out there. I would sure add your ebook to my guilty pleasure reading list. Maybe it would become a non-fiction best seller like "50 Shades".

Another Dave

[creampiecurious]

I know this can't be easy for you. It took almost two years living in a different province to get over my fiance. I went through all the emotions. Share what you need to here -- it helps to get it out. And if people here slam or judge you, shame on them. Even the ones who warned you should at least sympathize with your plight.

[curiousdave]

You should write a book CD. You skill as a wordsmith and your real life experiences would make good reading to folks interested in the cuckold lifestyle, or maybe even to the "regular folks" out there. I would sure add your ebook to my guilty pleasure reading list. Maybe it would become a non-fiction best seller like "50 Shades".

Another Dave

Thank you I appreciate that. It's kind of cool to think about but not sure I could pull it off. First I am far too sporadic with my writing to try and take it too seriously and secondly it isn't easy for me at all. I strain and have to think and re-think over every thing I write down. It doesn't come naturally for me at all. I just hate to submit stuff before I really try hard to make it sound at least decent. Plus I guess if I was to get lucky and have a successful hit of an e-novel about all this I'd have a lot of explaining to do to a couple of people who wouldn't appreciate it all too much . It would be a nice feeling though to have people read and accept my story on a larger scale than here. Although so far it's been very helpful being a part of this community here.

[curiousdave]

I know this can't be easy for you. It took almost two years living in a different province to get over my fiance. I went through all the emotions. Share what you need to here -- it helps to get it out. And if people here slam or judge you, shame on them. Even the ones who warned you should at least sympathize with your plight.

Thank you creampie. Once again I appreciate it.

[curiousdave]

Just talked with Jenna a few minutes ago. Been 2 full days since we last spoke (so some should think that's an improvement I guess). She called to tell me she's finally decided to start her own salon. He had been trying to convince her to do it for a good while but she just didn't want the added responsibility that goes with being the boss. Well she finally caved in and decided she'd do it. She's actually really excited now and already has 3 of her work girlfriends going to go with her. She's going to start shopping for a location next week. I'm happy for her. It's a big deal and I'm sure she'll be a huge success with it. She's very good.

[mopacpower]

Dave, I think all of us new that would happen, once she was at his house. It's no surprise, he always wanted to do that for her. And I bet her coworkers love her new man!

Make sure you get all of the bills in your name, and take her off your insurance plan. And open your own bank account. Good job on not initiating the contact, let her call you if she was wanting to tell you something.

Have you hanged out with your friend any at the bar?

[lozrob66]

Two full days! This is an improvement. Still I have a sense that you are sat at home waiting for the phone to ring. Much better to get yourself out into the wide world and leave those two alone for a while.

[b_p]

Thanks for reading my friends, I appreciate it.

Thank YOU for sharing it!

I still say that we haven't heard the last chapter of this thing yet. I don't know what it will be, maybe something predictable, maybe not. But it feels like a novel that we haven't gotten to the end of yet.

Also, a part of me thinks that what you thought you had with her, you didn't completely have. That is, if she was fantasizing about him long before the topic ever came up, then she wasn't all that committed to you and to your marriage when the two of you were living together.

However, having said that, let me wander off into fantasyland a bit, to hypothesize some different outcomes that are perhaps different from what you're expecting.

As you have mentioned, they could perhaps have one or more children. Suppose they have a couple or three kids and then he dies. He's older than both you and her. Would she rekindle at least a part of your relationship? Would you raise the children that he sired with her? Would that be embarrassing and perhaps even exciting?

Might the stress of running her own business have some unexpected consequences for her, or potentially for their relationship? I live with a woman who runs her own business. As my GF has said, her boss is a b*tch. She has three jobs: managing the business (including employees), marketing it to bring in the work, and doing most of the work herself. Jenna didn't seek out opening her own salon, it was his idea. We'll see if she's really cut out for handling the three jobs. Managing a salon will be quite a different situation from being a talented stylist.

I guess I still keep coming back to one central theme... that their relationship is partially built on fantasy material. To the extent that's the case, it's fragile, because fantasy isn't reality. She's fantasized about how wonderful he is. I think that's an unstable pedestal. What happens when he cheats on her? (And to be honest, I do think he will.) Then what happens? Will she dump him, throw him out like a scumbag? Forgive him and believe that it won't happen again? And then what?

I don't believe in "happily ever after," no matter who's spouting it.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[curiousdave]

Thanks for reading my friends, I appreciate it.

Thank YOU for sharing it!

I still say that we haven't heard the last chapter of this thing yet. I don't know what it will be, maybe something predictable, maybe not. But it feels like a novel that we haven't gotten to the end of yet.

Also, a part of me thinks that what you thought you had with her, you didn't completely have. That is, if she was fantasizing about him long before the topic ever came up, then she wasn't all that committed to you and to your marriage when the two of you were living together.

However, having said that, let me wander off into fantasyland a bit, to hypothesize some different outcomes that are perhaps different from what you're expecting.

As you have mentioned, they could perhaps have one or more children. Suppose they have a couple or three kids and then he dies. He's older than both you and her. Would she rekindle at least a part of your relationship? Would you raise the children that he sired with her? Would that be embarrassing and perhaps even exciting?

Might the stress of running her own business have some unexpected consequences for her, or potentially for their relationship? I live with a woman who runs her own business. As my GF has said, her boss is a b*tch. She has three jobs: managing the business (including employees), marketing it to bring in the work, and doing most of the work herself. Jenna didn't seek out opening her own salon, it was his idea. We'll see if she's really cut out for handling the three jobs. Managing a salon will be quite a different situation from being a talented stylist.

I guess I still keep coming back to one central theme... that their relationship is partially built on fantasy material. To the extent that's the case, it's fragile, because fantasy isn't reality. She's fantasized about how wonderful he is. I think that's an unstable pedestal. What happens when he cheats on her? (And to be honest, I do think he will.) Then what happens? Will she dump him, throw him out like a scumbag? Forgive him and believe that it won't happen again? And then what?

I don't believe in "happily ever after," no matter who's spouting it.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Who knows what the future will hold. I just know that right now she's happy as she can be. She seems to have the whole world at her fingertips and I am really happy for her. My life isn't perfect and I am in pain at my loss but I still derive pleasure knowing she is so happy. She always had a desire to take things further with her career but to be honest she was more into partying and having a good time to worry so much about it. I guess he has given her focus and more drive. I never pushed it because I was happy with things too. Obviously from what I've already told everyone he is a successful businessman and is always looking forward and planning. It must be rubbing off on her now. I think in her mind there was always time "later" for those sorts of things, career and kids and stuff. It seems being with him is getting the ball rolling on it all. And there is the possibility that she always had the desire to do it and get her life on track but maybe she knew it wasn't meant to be with me and she was hoping and waiting. I know she wouldn't own up to that so I won't bother asking right now.

As far as them having children and him dying and me moving back into the picture...well I just have no clue. I mean currently with all I've gone through he's in far better shape than I am. He'll probably out live me easily lol. Seriously, he's in very good shape. Seems far younger than his actual age and doesn't seem to be aging badly or growing old at all. Unless something out of the blue happens I can see him being around, healthy and happy for a long long time. Of course we never do know.

Let me ask you guys a question. Would any of you be interested in hearing about some of my weird dreams I've had lately? Only the ones relating to all this of course. But I have had some doozies of late. Just wondering if anyone would care to hear them?

[rs480]

I'd like to hear about the dreams Dave. We are all so "unique" in our own ways and whether I'd agree and have fun getting into your dreams or not is immaterial. Keep writing.
I must admit I agree with Cancun about the book idea. You do have a way with words. Hell, just change the subject around a bit, include what friends said (I don't know about the legalities of using words from anonymous posters here...)....
Yep, it might take a year or more to put it all together (I'm painfully slow at writing anything. It's gotta be perfect right?) but this is a hell of a story and yes I'd buy it too for my Nook.
A guy needs someplace he can unload the mind.

[jrandmustang]

Dave,
I feel bad that I haven't weighed in with my sympathies and my thanks for sharing your stories before now. I don't spend the time on OHW that I did a few years ago, and the cast of characters here is always evolving, but it's still an irreplaceable community for those of us experiencing things that we just can't talk to the other people in our daily lives about. I do know that over the past several months, as I've checked in every couple of weeks instead of every day like I once did, I've looked for updates on your story.
I'm sorry that it's gone the way it did, but you wrote with considerable courage and honesty early on about acknowledging and eroticizing the "worst case scenarios" of this dangerous game you got involved in. I hope you'll continue to share with us what you're experiencing and feeling ... whatever it is ... without feeling a need to apologize or move along to anyone else's timetable. I went through a divorce almost 25 years ago, and while at the time I appreciated the intentions of my friends who wanted to help by telling me "we need to get you laid," I wanted to marinate in my misery for a while, probably to the point that some of those friends got tired of it. Set your own pace, and share as much as you feel like.
(Oh, and while I was writing this you mentioned telling us about your dreams. Absolutely!!!)
JR

[skinny-one]

Dave: I always had this thought that IF you had never been injured, and continued to indulge Jenna the way that you had in the early days--could the situation have continued (With her having her "Secret" affair with your father?). It just seemed that everyone was pretty happy with the situation at that point in time. Your injury just seemed to launch everything into another level. Your thoughts?

[wingman]

Dave -

I would love to read about your dreams. Also, I would love to hear some more details about the things Jen told you the last time you were together.

I agree with another comment here.... you seem to enjoy the humiliation of it all. Please don't take that as a negative statement. I have the same kink. I'm just pointing out an observation to frame out that my requests are meant to have you re-live the experience, which you seem to be into these days. I'm wrong, please forgive me and let me know. If not, we'll share in your enjoyment.

By the way... any chance you might be more willing to now post a pic of her (even with face blur).

While you work through things... try to enjoy!!!!

One last note.... I do agree with many comments here... and will share the comments of a friend of mine from years back, who often told me..."the best way to get over old Pussy... is NEW Pussy!!" So at least go get some relief. Hell is you have the cash, go to Nevada, drop by a bunny ranch, pick a jenna lookalike, and tell her your story. I'm sure she could verbally tease you, give you a handjob while she asks you to tell her details, could tell you what they are doing (improvising of course), etc. While some might say its still hanging on, I personally think it might be a fun way for you to start the process of moving on. And believe me... then a hot babe wraps her hand around your cock and gives you the pleasure you deserve... you'll begin to move on!!!!

Like I said... try to ENJOY!!!!

[mopacpower]

Dave, you can post any dreams, feelings, or ramblings that you want this is your life and your thread. We just like to hear about it, and we will make observations and comments about anything that you would post.

By the way that dream you had, when you are in the kitchen and they are a loving couple at the sink, is going to come true. Just wait till the next holiday or birthday party, when you go over there and you will see it. AND You might send your dad a email or letter about all of what happen in your words, be honest and tell him the truth, so you guys can come to a understanding, he has been your Dad for 25? years, and you have only known Jenna for 12? I've actually gotten closer to my Dad now that I am older and not just a kid, and you should too. By the way, what does your extended family, your cousins, aunts, and uncles think about what happen?

Have you gotten the divorce started? Get a lawyer to help you get it done, so every body can move on. You don't have kids or a house, so this should be done quickly by a legal timeline, about 9 months I think, maybe quicker with a good lawyer.

Dave since this fantasy has become a reality, and you got the short straw, what else do you have fantasy about, since I this one has been crossed off your list? I was hoping back in June that everybody would move into a lake house and start a poly-lifestyle, and you guys would share her, and everybody would be happy. BUT life happens, and it ended this way.

How is your back, are you healing? You might go do a "Larry Crowne" and go back to school and get a degree or find a pretty young thing that likes older men. I bet Jenna would like to see that you have moved on, and are no longer stuck on her. This would ease her guilt of ending her marriage they way she did.

keep posting whatever you want to tell us,
mopacpower

[intrigued]

WOW! This whole saga has taken me over a week to read and I was totally blow away when I got to the "that's it she's leaving me" post. I had my own little shades of grey thing going on and was using the inspiration to please the hell out of my wife. You certainly have made our sex life better an will surely continue with the fantasy you stirred up in my mind. Hopefully you can find a lady to share your desires with that understands the cuck experience and you can start a new sexual journey that has none of the repercussions of your first experience. I've told my wife of this fantasy and she now needs to read this thread I think. A good lesson to learn before we make the next step. Hope all works out well for you in the coming months and your health gets back to 100%. Bad backs suck! Been there. We'll keep reading and looking forward to future posts. You're a kick ass guy in my opinion and deserve the best. J

[curiousdave]

WOW! This whole saga has taken me over a week to read and I was totally blow away when I got to the "that's it she's leaving me" post. I had my own little shades of grey thing going on and was using the inspiration to please the hell out of my wife. You certainly have made our sex life better an will surely continue with the fantasy you stirred up in my mind. Hopefully you can find a lady to share your desires with that understands the cuck experience and you can start a new sexual journey that has none of the repercussions of your first experience. I've told my wife of this fantasy and she now needs to read this thread I think. A good lesson to learn before we make the next step. Hope all works out well for you in the coming months and your health gets back to 100%. Bad backs suck! Been there. We'll keep reading and looking forward to future posts. You're a kick ass guy in my opinion and deserve the best. J

Thanks so much for your well wishes and I am super happy to know my story inspired you in some way and brought some kind of sexual energy to your life. I received one other similar compliment (won't name names) through pm and it really made my day. I started out needing advice and thoughts and quickly found it to be fun and helpful for me to write my story down and share it. Over time different things happened and at times it became a stressful thing but it's great to know it caused "good" things for a few. Thanks for letting me know this as it came on a good day. I was feeling sort of down today with the big V day coming up. It's a nice feeling to think someone somewhere got something sexy out of all this.

[curiousdave]

Dave: I always had this thought that IF you had never been injured, and continued to indulge Jenna the way that you had in the early days--could the situation have continued (With her having her "Secret" affair with your father?). It just seemed that everyone was pretty happy with the situation at that point in time. Your injury just seemed to launch everything into another level. Your thoughts?

I really don't know. I think it was coming no matter what else may have happened. Based on our lengthy talks she was totally in love with him and it was just a matter of time. Might have lasted a little longer had I not gotten hurt but I guess I am kind of happy it happened when it did. Fantasy wise no I'm not and would have loved to drag it out as long as possible. But knowing what I know now, it's really best for everything to go ahead and get where it needs to be for everybody. I loved the situation but I hate thinking I was living a lie and she wasn't truly happy and content.

[curiousdave]

Dave -

I would love to read about your dreams. Also, I would love to hear some more details about the things Jen told you the last time you were together.

I agree with another comment here.... you seem to enjoy the humiliation of it all. Please don't take that as a negative statement. I have the same kink. I'm just pointing out an observation to frame out that my requests are meant to have you re-live the experience, which you seem to be into these days. I'm wrong, please forgive me and let me know. If not, we'll share in your enjoyment.

By the way... any chance you might be more willing to now post a pic of her (even with face blur).

While you work through things... try to enjoy!!!!

One last note.... I do agree with many comments here... and will share the comments of a friend of mine from years back, who often told me..."the best way to get over old Pussy... is NEW Pussy!!" So at least go get some relief. Hell is you have the cash, go to Nevada, drop by a bunny ranch, pick a jenna lookalike, and tell her your story. I'm sure she could verbally tease you, give you a handjob while she asks you to tell her details, could tell you what they are doing (improvising of course), etc. While some might say its still hanging on, I personally think it might be a fun way for you to start the process of moving on. And believe me... then a hot babe wraps her hand around your cock and gives you the pleasure you deserve... you'll begin to move on!!!!

Like I said... try to ENJOY!!!!

No I won't be posting a photo of her. Not now or ever with how it all has played out. I understand a blurred face would protect her identity but it just seems wrong to do it. I feel guilty quite often for sharing so much personal stuff already when she doesn't know and I'm pretty sure wouldn't be happy if she found out.

Not sure why but the last day or two I've been warming up on the idea of some new pussy lol. Maybe it's due to valentines day and feeling a little sorry for myself or maybe it's friends in real life and many of you, but it's not sounding so bad right now. We'll see