Wife and my Dad

[curiousdave]

I appreciate all the latest feedback everyone. The well wishes and even the guys all fired up and having my back means a lot. I think some is a little misguided but hey, we all see through a different set of eyes so.

Ok so let me update things real quick. I got a text yesterday from Jen asking if I was still coming to her event (which is tomorrow , well today actually since it's now Thursday). Obviously this shocked me cause I figured that's the last thing she would want. I texted back asking if she still wanted me too. She answered very sweetly "Of course I do". I said I wasn't sure after our last talk and she just blew it off saying "No no, I really want you there". So I'm going now and I feel much better about everything. Maybe I misread just how pissed she really was. I know she was mad, that was obvious but I guess not mad enough to throw away our friendship (or whatever you guys want to call it). So that was a great weight lifted off me. I'll be sure to report how everything goes after. I'm actually looking forward to it, it's a big thing for her and call me stupid, I still care a lot.

Ok so let me address something important here, something that's been suggested a couple times by people here. I thought I made it clear before but either I didn't or people just don't believe me due to my actions or thoughts I share. In no way, shape, or form do I hold out any hope that she will one day take me back or have any kind of sexual relationship with me. Honestly I don't. I promise that is not on my mind and doesn't even play into any crazy fantasy I have. I know she is gone for good and I have accepted that. But I do love her still and want nothing but the best for her and my dad and if possible would like to be in their lives to some degree. Why? Hell I can't explain it. Maybe I want to live vicariously through them somehow... I don't know. But I love them both still. My feelings for my dad have changed a good bit of late but I still love the guy. I guess I don't really think of him as "Dad" anymore but I can't forget all the things he's done to help me through the years and he was a great friend for most of my life. As for Jenna , well my love for her was so deep and complete I find it impossible to just wash my hands of her completely. I really think I've done really good in moving on (especially lately) with my various relationships and stuff. My fantasies and jerk off time was changing drastically from her to other things and my free time was devoted to bedding someone else. So I think I am moving in a positive direction. Paige may not want to continue on but that doesn't change the fact that I put my energy into getting with her and not sitting around fantasizing about Jen and my Dad. But please everyone know, I am not going to get Jen back, I know it, and I accept it. Not gonna happen ever. So there, no one has to worry about that anymore. I may be pathetic in some of your eyes but I'm not that far gone mentally

Ok that's it for now. I'll write soon with the grand opening report (unless it's completely uninteresting). Thanks again everybody. I do appreciate everyone caring enough to pipe in with their thoughts.

[curiousdave]

Dave, I think you might change your avatar now. Those have left the building. Find someone new to make one of, maybe a breast shot from Paige?

Just a idea, go on a cruise. Meet someone new.

I'll look around and see if I can find a new one I like. Not sure what it will be but I guess you're right. Not really fitting anymore.

[aldada]

I may not let your guard down at the event. She has had time to talk with the other ladies.

[mopacpower]

Dave, I was talking to my wife's uncle and he told me a story of her family, this happens about 1900. His Grandpa was married and had a wife and they had six sons. When the youngest was about five, his wife got sick and died. The grandpa got remarried to a young girl of 17 or 18, and they have four girls together. The youngest boy always had a crush on his new mom, so when he turned 20, she divorced grandpa and married the youngest son. My wife's uncle said that he never was mad about it, because he loved them both and wanted his family to stay together and not split apart like some would do. They all stayed friendly and cordial.

So you staying on nice terms with Jenna, is like what grandpa did. I thought of you when he was telling me this.

[lozrob66]

I don't think it a good idea to go to the opening event, for anyone really. But seeing as you will go, why not try I fuck Paige in the restrooms!

[b_p]

Dave, I hate to say it, but I'm going to:

"I TOLD YOU SO."

Paige spilled the beans, no matter what act she put on for your benefit. If it had just been the other woman (was her name Ann?) then Jenna would have said something like, "Oh, I hear you've been dating Ann. She's nice, I think you'll like getting to know her better."

Paige told Jenna everything she knows, and now she'll act like she didn't have anything to do with it. She couldn't keep it to herself. The type of woman that she is gets off on people seeing her as an uber-sexy woman, and saying that she's slept with you (notice the PAST tense) was done to enhance her reputation. She enjoys that reputation far more than she enjoys getting laid.

Also, I agree with the posters who say that Jenna has NO RIGHT to try to tell you who you should or shouldn't sleep with. She was married to you, and she seems to have forgotten that she isn't any more.

Apologizing to her was a bad idea. Your answer should have been, "Yeah, so what?"

Anyhow, thanks for the update. (sigh)

BP

[wingman]

Dave -

Good to hear you reaffirming you've moved on. I still think you should present yourself as "in command" at the event and any time after that (with Paige too for that matter). You should tell Jen (not at the event.. that's her day) she has NO say in who you date, and she better behave with Paige or anyone else you choose, and she knows. If done with respect, dignity, and a confident and commanding tone, I think you'll be surprised how she reacts. And if she fires back, one more reasons to say "Next"!!!!

Who knows, it might put you in a better position to see if Paige has any friends she would be willing to set you up with (after all if she is taking herself out of the running).

Just my 2 cents worth.

[bubbajack]

I am taking Dave at his word in regard to his attitude towards Jenna and his Dad. And I think his intention to wish them the best and to continue to value his relationship with them is wise and will quite likely lead to a future with a satisfying constellation of friends and connections with a rich variety of intimacy levels to enjoy.

Almost certainly what he has laid out as a strategy will make for a Better Life for him than if he were as obsessed with crucifying Jenna and Dad - or even cutting them off - as some of his fans here seem to be.

Dave has "loved and lost" as the old saying goes* and I think he is doing the right thing by resisting all impulses - which I am pretty sure he feels from time to time - to have them both tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. It is not worth spending a single minute of his remaining mortal life, in my opinion, to try to hurt them back.

So you go, Dave! Like Loz, I wouldn't go to a beauty salon grand opening for anything (except maybe a large fee!) but it probably won't hurt to show the flag.

*(well, sort of lost - he certainly had quite a prominent hand in engineering exactly what happened. An idea: maybe Dave knew somewhere deep inside after living with her for a while that whatever he did he would never be a match for Jenna's powerful unacknowledged and maybe unconscious package of neurotic obsessions - and he has very cleverly slipped what was becoming a noose by palming his wacko wife off on a much tougher and more experienced exploiter of goofy women whom he knew from firsthand observation had the mojo to handle the all-too-transparently self-addicted Jenna, because he had married Dave's mom! )

[elina]

Dave,

I am with the rest of the pack here.
Jenna has no right what so ever to have an opinion about who you have sex with.
I think you should simply tell her this in a nice manner; when she decides to leave you the way she did the least you could expect was some sympathy and joy on your behalf once you started to get your life back together and was emotionally able to be with other ladies.

Sorry for this; I recognize that you still have emotions for her, but ff there is any person in this story I have lost respect for it is Jenna, certainly not you.

And running away to a whole new life is not something that seems right to me. If for other reasons you want to make a move, it should be up to you, but certainly not to avoid hurting Jenna's feeling by etablishing relationships with people she knows.

BR
Elina

[lozrob66]

That's why I like Bubbajack! Nice outro.

[curiousdave]

Hello friends, I'm a little buzzed right now so I probably shouldn't be writing but you got to strike when you find the inspiration so here I go. Nothing too major to report but for those who have kept up with me and my life I'm sure they will find it somewhat interesting.


The grand opening of Jenna's salon went off without a hitch. She was very sweet and nice to me. She hugged me several times and even gave me a hello and goodbye kiss (on the cheek of course). We chit chatted a little but she was very busy being the host and had lots of different people pulling her away here and there. What was unique and nice actually was that me and my dad spent more time talking and hanging out than we have since all this started. He was in a very relaxed and happy mood and as the evening went on got more and more so. He doesn't drink a lot but he seemed to be enjoying himself a good bit and I guess finally felt relieved to have the new project finished and up and running. Jenna's mother and sister were there too and I talked with them a good bit also (mostly mom). At times it felt like we were all one big happy family again ( as crazy as that may sound). But like I said dad and me talked and hung out and it felt really cool. It's not something I was hoping for or anything and it seemed to just happen and wasn't forced or anything... it felt nice and real. I guess I miss him more than I knew afterall.


Now I will say a few things triggered my "old feelings". They are small and harmless things (non sexual) but for whatever reason they brought all kinds of erotic emotions up inside me. For one the way everyone acted or maybe interacted. First of all seeing them together like they were. I really haven't been around them together much at all and this was the first time it was all relaxed, un guarded, real life so to speak. It's just how I had imagined it so many times before. Seeing them as a couple... sharing looks and smiles, his hand on her lower back, her leaning against him and hugging him back. All the while she's chatting with a friend and smiling and being so happy. I pictured it just like that so many times. I felt very turned on by it all. Then when the whole group of us ( her mother and sister and my dad ) all stood there talking and stuff, the way it all seemed. Well I guess if no one knew it you never would have known she was ever my wife or involved with me in that kind of way. It just seemed like everything was 100% normal and it had been like this forever, John and Jenna and me as John's son. I know some of that may seem weird or I am not explaining it correctly but it struck me in such a way. Her mom acting like John was her son-inlaw and everyone loving him in that way. Her mom was super sweet to me also, showed no sign of anything negative but it all just struck me in a certain way. I can't lie I've jacked off a bunch already to these memories.


Anyway like I said all went well. Paige seemingly ignored me and I just let it go. Life's too short and we weren't committed or anything. She's not doing anything wrong. She wants what she wants and that's that. Ann wasn't there and I didn't want to ask with all thats happened. I'm thinking maybe she isn't coming to the new salon or something. Maybe she's staying where she's at. Jenna's old boss was there though. She's a very sweet woman and I could tell she has no hard feelings about Jen leaving and starting her own thing.

Oh yeah, I did ask my dad if there were any wedding plans yet and he said they were still talking it over but said possibly in December. H e was very at ease with his answer and he didn't seem bothered or anything that I asked. Like I said, if you didn't know, you'd never know anything was ever odd about anything. Just like a dad and son talking about when the dad was going to marry his girlfriend. Now while all this turns me on private I am happy that it's reached that point. I don't want them feeling weird or awkward about me. I still wonder how we will evolve over time but I think the signs were good . Man they looked so good together and as always she looked simply breathtaking. She has definitely reached her physical peek now. Everything about her ( for her haters I am talking about looks here, nothing else lol) she just is perfect looking (for my taste anyway). I know she isn't very popular here so I'll leave it at that and won't go through a whole description process or anything. But I had a good time and am very happy I went.

As for tonight I went to a friends house and watched the UFC. Well we went to Hooters first and hung out for a while but it got crowded and he has some package deal with his cable that he gets all those shows for free so we went back to his place. I met a couple of girls at Hooters though (got one's number). She was pretty hot I guess. Maybe I'll call her in a few days or something, we'll see.

Ok guys that it for now. I'll write more when I know more take care friends.

[curiousdave]

I am taking Dave at his word in regard to his attitude towards Jenna and his Dad. And I think his intention to wish them the best and to continue to value his relationship with them is wise and will quite likely lead to a future with a satisfying constellation of friends and connections with a rich variety of intimacy levels to enjoy.

Almost certainly what he has laid out as a strategy will make for a Better Life for him than if he were as obsessed with crucifying Jenna and Dad - or even cutting them off - as some of his fans here seem to be.

Dave has "loved and lost" as the old saying goes* and I think he is doing the right thing by resisting all impulses - which I am pretty sure he feels from time to time - to have them both tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. It is not worth spending a single minute of his remaining mortal life, in my opinion, to try to hurt them back.

So you go, Dave! Like Loz, I wouldn't go to a beauty salon grand opening for anything (except maybe a large fee!) but it probably won't hurt to show the flag.

*(well, sort of lost - he certainly had quite a prominent hand in engineering exactly what happened. An idea: maybe Dave knew somewhere deep inside after living with her for a while that whatever he did he would never be a match for Jenna's powerful unacknowledged and maybe unconscious package of neurotic obsessions - and he has very cleverly slipped what was becoming a noose by palming his wacko wife off on a much tougher and more experienced exploiter of goofy women whom he knew from firsthand observation had the mojo to handle the all-too-transparently self-addicted Jenna, because he had married Dave's mom! )

Maybe it's because you are taking my side but I have to say this is possibly my favorite reply ever. I just really appreciate it and thank you.

[hansen69]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

[lozrob66]

I think everyone is on your side, Dave. No one really wishes any malice toward Jenna or Pops. The general consensus is most would like to see less influence from Jenna over your actions. Jenna is going to be fine, we never really knew her, she once had a pair of jeans like your avatar! That's it.

[mopacpower]

Great, that Jenna and dad and her family treated you like family and not a stranger in the corner. I wonder who her Mom likes best, you or John.

Don't get addicted to the Jenna fantasy, remember she will be your step mom soon. And that is another fantasy, it's in Bill and Ted Excellent adventure even!

You need to move on to a new girl to get the old one out of your head.

Good luck.

[Max_Devli]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

Completely agreed. I can't help but wonder about the neurological wiring in Dave's head. Something is definitely skewed towards wanting his world to work this way. Much more so than even people here fantasize over.

Other people might be tempted to eat a bullet after having these experiences, but Dave just keeps enjoying it. I can't relate at all, but it's fascinating to read such a different perspective. While I consider most cuckold writing to be rather redundant and dull (the 'humiliate me so that I might wank off' crowd), this one has a spin to it that seems honestly sincere. 'Cuckold' might be too generic a word for Dave. 'Other' might be a better fit.

[curiousdave]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

Demented stuff huh? Well I guess you are probably right. I said way way back that I knew I was in essence weird and a pervert. I don't like that fact but it is what it is. I try and be a level headed and straight thinking dude but when it comes to Jenna and my Dad I just can't. I can't explain why I am the way I am, I just am. I honestly would have never thought I would become this way (years ago) but it sort of crept up on me (sort of quickly actually). I don't like everything about myself (not by a long shot) but I do consider myself a nice guy who's fantasies aren't hurting anyone, besides possibly myself. Also to add, things didn't turn out the way I wanted obviously. I may have craved knowing she was with another man , a better man, a man I love also and I guess in ways always adored on some level, but I still wanted to know she was also mine. That's the tricky part, I wanted to know she was still mine on some levels or ways but that she was also his . I still can't figure that one out myself. But in the end she chose for all of us so it really doesn't matter anymore. Thanks for your thoughts though, glad my story interest you enough to comment, even if it bothers you too on some levels.

[curiousdave]

I think everyone is on your side, Dave. No one really wishes any malice toward Jenna or Pops. The general consensus is most would like to see less influence from Jenna over your actions. Jenna is going to be fine, we never really knew her, she once had a pair of jeans like your avatar! That's it.

Well to be fair Jenna really hasn't been influencing anything up to this point. She voiced some displeasure in the fact that I fucked 2 of her co-workers and friends. A fact that I do think would bother most women and men. True most women and men aren't leaving their spouses for an in-law. But all things considered, with how we got to where we got and how I did nothing but support and encourage her along the way, well I think she is within her rights to at least be upset I would screw someone close to her. It's not that I don't have the right to screw whoever I want, when I want but sort of a thing of "you don't shit where you eat" I think. I know to most of you she lost all rights to everything when she did what she did. But we split amicably so she wouldn't be expecting a retaliation or anything. Does that make any sense at all? I mean if we split up with me acting and being all pissed off then something like that wouldn't come as a shock. But under our circumstances I think her reaction was fair. I mean putting myself in her shoes I probably would have felt the same way. That sounds odd I know since she left me for my own dad but I mean if I was really in her shoes, with how everything played out. If the shoe was on the other foot and she had desired me to be with her mom, and I happened to want that also. Then I give her what she wanted and things turned out the same way with me falling in love with her mom. Well in that scenario I wouldn't have wanted her to go out and start fucking my friends either. Yes she would have every right to do it, but that doesn't mean I'd like it.

But anyway the point I'm trying to get to in such a long winded way is, other than that one episode she really hasn't dictated or demanded anything of me. And the way that whole thing ended was her saying "Fuck it, do what you want". Now that's only a person being pissed off and moving on. She didn't verbalize any ultimatums to me or anything. Didn't say if you keep doing it I won't talk to you anymore or anything. I reacted the way I did because I love her and don't like making her mad. That's my own shit, not hers. She's not some evil overbearing asshole who won't let me move on or anything. If I had to bet and I feel I'm probably very right (even though it hasn't been discussed) but if I had to bet I'd say she would probably love to know I've moved on and found someone I love and care about. I believe it would probably ease some guilt and shame she probably still feels. She was always one of the sweetest people I've ever known. Spoiled and selfish maybe, but very very sweet and caring (to me as well as others). I know her very well. There is no way she feels 100% great about everything and the way things ended up for me. No way at all does she feel that way. That woman loved me and I like to think still does (just in a different way now). The girl I grew up with and shared a large chunk of life with doesn't want anything but good for me. I know that in my heart. I wish you guys could really know her, I mean really. You still may would think she did a fucked up thing, but I promise if you knew her like I and her friends do then you would understand she is a totally sweet girl who just got caught up in something she couldn't really control.

Lozrob this reply was not completely aimed at you. But the vast majority who have voiced similar opinions . Opinions I understand and appreciate but still somewhat misguided because honestly they just don't know her well enough I guess. I never take offense to these opinions, I actually take comfort a little because I know they are coming from a place of caring about me and hate to think of themselves in a similar boat. But I have to be fair to Jenna in all this. She is the one who made the final call, a decision that makes her look very selfish and heartless on the outside. But all is not as it seems, I guarantee it.

[curiousdave]

Don't get addicted to the Jenna fantasy, remember she will be your step mom soon. And that is another fantasy, it's in Bill and Ted Excellent adventure even!

You need to move on to a new girl to get the old one out of your head.

Good luck.

Step Mom...Whew,, I know right, so crazy to think about.

Yes I need to move on to another girl. I agree 100% and I do intend to. I was trying before and will again. The fantasy you say I shouldn't become addicted to... well I'm trying to let it go and hopefully will one day. I'm not there yet and who knows when it will ease up but that doesn't mean I don't want to find my own new hottie to play with.

[curiousdave]

Dave, I was talking to my wife's uncle and he told me a story of her family, this happens about 1900. His Grandpa was married and had a wife and they had six sons. When the youngest was about five, his wife got sick and died. The grandpa got remarried to a young girl of 17 or 18, and they have four girls together. The youngest boy always had a crush on his new mom, so when he turned 20, she divorced grandpa and married the youngest son. My wife's uncle said that he never was mad about it, because he loved them both and wanted his family to stay together and not split apart like some would do. They all stayed friendly and cordial.

So you staying on nice terms with Jenna, is like what grandpa did. I thought of you when he was telling me this.

Oh meant to say thanks for this story. It was nice!

[curiousdave]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

Completely agreed. I can't help but wonder about the neurological wiring in Dave's head. Something is definitely skewed towards wanting his world to work this way. Much more so than even people here fantasize over.

Other people might be tempted to eat a bullet after having these experiences, but Dave just keeps enjoying it. I can't relate at all, but it's fascinating to read such a different perspective. While I consider most cuckold writing to be rather redundant and dull (the 'humiliate me so that I might wank off' crowd), this one has a spin to it that seems honestly sincere. 'Cuckold' might be too generic a word for Dave. 'Other' might be a better fit.

Once again I'm glad it interest you even if it bothers on some level. I wish I could understand my "wiring" also but I don't. I can say I wouldn't call what I am feeling "enjoyment" really. And like I said before things didn't work out how I wanted. Not by a long shot. Yes I've moved to a place where I am accepting and have adapted to what I now have, but it wasn't in my master plans or whatever. I never had a clearly crafted masterplan or anything anyway. None of that would matter much anyway because I was only an observer when all was said and done. Jenna had/has the power and it was her call where this thing lead. But this was not what I planned or saw in my future. I had some dreams and fantasies that were similar to what I ended up with, but they were just that, dreams and fantasies. In real life I never expected or wanted a complete loss of the woman I loved. It's really weird how dreams work isn't it? I mean I had the dream where they were a couple and I was their child, strange to say the least. I still think of that often actually.

But what I mean by not enjoying it is when I do still fantasize or pleasure myself it comes with a sort of sickening feeling (especially when I'm done). How and why I am able to masturbate at all to any of this I don't know. I guess I have deep rooted issues I've never identified before. I know I never got off on any feelings like this before. It all started after my mom died and I would see them interact the way they did. That's when I first discovered the odd, strange, disturbing feelings. Never before. And now I know it's shaped my sexuality in different ways. I don't picture myself ever wanting to lose another woman completely to another man. But in my time with Paige I was constantly fantasizing about her as a slut, a girl who wanted bigger and better than I had to offer, so on. I didn't have those type feelings before all this. Before all this I would say I was as normal as the next guy in my interest. Legs, ass, tits, 2 girls getting it on with each other, wet t-shirt contest, pretty normal and now what sounds sort of bland to me. Thats what kinds of things I used to think about. Now it's changed. I don't know if I will stay this way but that's where my head is at right now, today.

[curiousdave]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

Completely agreed. I can't help but wonder about the neurological wiring in Dave's head. Something is definitely skewed towards wanting his world to work this way. Much more so than even people here fantasize over.

Other people might be tempted to eat a bullet after having these experiences, but Dave just keeps enjoying it. I can't relate at all, but it's fascinating to read such a different perspective. While I consider most cuckold writing to be rather redundant and dull (the 'humiliate me so that I might wank off' crowd), this one has a spin to it that seems honestly sincere. 'Cuckold' might be too generic a word for Dave. 'Other' might be a better fit.

+1. What they said. I am the first to admit that, while I clearly identify with the hotwife husband mindset, I don't understand the cuck wiring at all. And somewhere way out there about a mile and half beyond the cuck mindset is Dave.

Still, this story is fascinating--much like watching a train wreck--and I keep coming back to it awaiting the next chapter.

I was just about to type the same comment - the train wreck aspect. But I don't think I can stand to read any more. I have always found this story hot - purely from the fantasy aspect of it - but dang if I can't wrap my mind around it actually happening in real life. Dave sounds so rational and calm in his posts but there is definitely some disconnect there to actually enjoy going through this. Good luck to you Dave - you're going to need a lot of it.

Thanks for the "Luck" you're probably right and I'll take whatever I can get I think I pretty much addressed what you said in some of my other replies tonight. Hope it sheds a little light for you and I hope you can find something in my (future) life that will make things more acceptable to read. Thanks for your time and comments.

[curiousdave]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

Completely agreed. I can't help but wonder about the neurological wiring in Dave's head. Something is definitely skewed towards wanting his world to work this way. Much more so than even people here fantasize over.

Other people might be tempted to eat a bullet after having these experiences, but Dave just keeps enjoying it. I can't relate at all, but it's fascinating to read such a different perspective. While I consider most cuckold writing to be rather redundant and dull (the 'humiliate me so that I might wank off' crowd), this one has a spin to it that seems honestly sincere. 'Cuckold' might be too generic a word for Dave. 'Other' might be a better fit.

+1. What they said. I am the first to admit that, while I clearly identify with the hotwife husband mindset, I don't understand the cuck wiring at all. And somewhere way out there about a mile and half beyond the cuck mindset is Dave.

Still, this story is fascinating--much like watching a train wreck--and I keep coming back to it awaiting the next chapter.

This train wreck everyone keeps referring to as my life is starting to bother me lol I thought I was making some decent progress under the circumstances. Oh well I'll keep at it. I'm actually in a pretty decent mindset right now so I don't want to get all down thinking of my life as a train wreck. Keep coming back though, I'll work through all this and might surprise some of you.

[hansen69]

You are definitely a better man than I. I get the whole cuckold thing, but this has gone way past that. This is some really demented stuff you have gong on in your head. I couldn't possibly stand to be around either one of them regardless of whether or not I felt responsible for what transpired. What she did was inexcusable in my opinion. I really don't see how this will turn out, hell maybe you would be happy if dear old dad asked you to be his best man. I can't seem to pull myself away from this train wreck. Best of luck to ya Dave.

Demented stuff huh? Well I guess you are probably right. I said way way back that I knew I was in essence weird and a pervert. I don't like that fact but it is what it is. I try and be a level headed and straight thinking dude but when it comes to Jenna and my Dad I just can't. I can't explain why I am the way I am, I just am. I honestly would have never thought I would become this way (years ago) but it sort of crept up on me (sort of quickly actually). I don't like everything about myself (not by a long shot) but I do consider myself a nice guy who's fantasies aren't hurting anyone, besides possibly myself. Also to add, things didn't turn out the way I wanted obviously. I may have craved knowing she was with another man , a better man, a man I love also and I guess in ways always adored on some level, but I still wanted to know she was also mine. That's the tricky part, I wanted to know she was still mine on some levels or ways but that she was also his . I still can't figure that one out myself. But in the end she chose for all of us so it really doesn't matter anymore. Thanks for your thoughts though, glad my story interest you enough to comment, even if it bothers you too on some levels.

I meant no disrespect towards you, I just feel that your tormenting yourself by associating with Jenna, John and the rest of her family. Those were your in-laws and they act as if nothing ever happened. That's just ludicrous. I just don't see the "one big happy family" aspect of it. Focus on yourself and some hot piece of ass instead of them.

[allengt]

I mean I had the dream where they were a couple and I was their child, strange to say the least. I still think of that often actually.

When they get married you will then be her step-son and you can say, and jerk off to the fact, that you fucked your step-mother. Her mother will then be your step-grandmother and that is another one you can dream about fucking whereas before she was your mother-in-law.