Wife and my Dad

[spyguy24]

A story never ends. There are merely unpublished chapters. It's up to you when you want to stop writing here.

[rs480]

Let this thread go or keep it up to date. That's your call. :-)
I like wingman's thought "Trading up, a new Paige." or from my head "A whole new world." A man doing the best he can.
You know we'll read it. :-)
I am loving the updates. :-)
Merry Christmas Dave. :-)

[elina]

Dave,

Thanks for updating.
If you feel like it, close this thread and start a new one (just remember to tell us where it is).
But, please, whatever you do: keep posting.

Even if you are not in a committed relationship to Paige (yet - I hope - You should remind Her She told Her friend She was training you as Her slave and ask Her to please step that up) please teel us about your progress.

Sincerely
Elina

[mickey151947]

This post was the one that brought me to ourhotwives!! and i have stayed here since then. Your thoughts, your journey, your triumphs and your lows, we all, who followed you, have lived thru them .... i won't say i felt them, but you were there in my thoughts. I can't tell u how upset i was when jena left you and how i felt elated when you and paige hit it off! so if you think that this forum is just for those into hotwife/cuck situation..... True. But you have been part of this and you will be part of this ..... if i am reading things right. And i speak for myself ..... i am still interested (very very interested) to know how your life unfolds . So its up to you whether you wanna share it with those like me who have followed your journey and have become a attached to you or not.

[viking53]

Dave, just like for mickey151947, it was your post that first attracted me to OHW and got me reading the Forum. It has continued to be one of the primary threads I have followed since I first discovered OHW.

Having now gone back and re-read your original posts at the start of this thread, I am not so sure about the revelations by Paige on the night of the wedding. You have clearly described right from the very beginning that Jen and your Dad had a long intimate relationship since many years, even when your Mother was still there. This was something that both you and your Mother recognized and accepted. You have described it as a non-sexual intimate relationship and the conversations and remarks you describe in your initial posts, many during very passionate occasions between you and Jen, strongly support this, right up until the first sexual event on May 10, 2012.

I believe you have been misled by Paige applying her own yardstick to these activities. For her, a strong, intimate relationship is automatically a sexual relationship. You know from your early conversations with Jen that Paige was party to this relationship well before May last year but I don’t think that Paige is aware that you have known about this for so long. Reading back through everything, I am still very convinced that the relationship between Jen and your Dad prior to May 2012 was a very strong and intimate relationship but non-sexual.

[Terrycart79]

As a parting gift, can you please show us pics of Jenna & Paige?

[demonic1000]

Curiousdave, I agree about starting a new thread. This one brought me to ourhotwives, similar to mickey151947.

[sensual9696]

Hi Dave,
I do hope you continue to write under this post or start a new one. I think your writing skills are exceptional and I have thoroughly enjoyed being allowed to be a part of your experiences this past year. While you have gone through some difficult times in your relationships, don't lose faith in them overall. You will find the one who is perfect for you and it is my hope you will continue to share with us all here on the Forums.
Happy New Year,
sensual9696

[curiousdave]

You guy's never fail. Your thoughts and well wishes are always so nice to hear, thank you. I will probably start a new thread at some point. When I have something good to tell you. Thanks everyone

[Zampano]

Dave,

I've been reading this thread from the top for the last few days now and officially speaking I'm on page 35, but it didn't take long for me to realize that things were going to take a negative turn. I've been wrestling with some of my fantasies lately and I've had to deal with realizing that there is sometimes a fine tight rope that gets walked between what you want to experience and what you can experience or even tell someone about without running into issues. There were signs early on of a lot of things that you may not even yet be aware of, however talking that is not the purpose of my post.

I actually created an account and made this post simply for one thought alone. Like I said, I'm only officially on page 35, I've skimmed through more than that but I also mostly only read your posts, so if this has been discussed, then my apologies for not catching it.

Anyway, what interests me is the possibility of Jen and your dad having children together. I think as you mentioned not too long ago that it is a blessing there are not children involved. However, I can't imagine she hasn't thought about that and wondered what she will do about explaining everything to them, or what she will do about raising kids with a much older father, who will I'm guessing be in his 70's? when they are ready to go to college. There are only so many directions this can head in at this point, and honestly it may be best to deal with this now if it hasn't already been because what you may ultimately realize is that you might need to completely cut ties.

I'm curious to know how much you've thought about all of this and more than anything I'd like to hear that YOU find happiness in the end of all of this. We may share quite a bit in common in some ways, and I think you'd do well to realize that YOU have options that you can act on that may be eye opening for the both of them.

Good luck.

[Mia]

Dave,

I've been reading this thread from the top for the last few days now and officially speaking I'm on page 35, but it didn't take long for me to realize that things were going to take a negative turn. I've been wrestling with some of my fantasies lately and I've had to deal with realizing that there is sometimes a fine tight rope that gets walked between what you want to experience and what you can experience or even tell someone about without running into issues. There were signs early on of a lot of things that you may not even yet be aware of, however talking that is not the purpose of my post.

I actually created an account and made this post simply for one thought alone. Like I said, I'm only officially on page 35, I've skimmed through more than that but I also mostly only read your posts, so if this has been discussed, then my apologies for not catching it.

Anyway, what interests me is the possibility of Jen and your dad having children together. I think as you mentioned not too long ago that it is a blessing there are not children involved. However, I can't imagine she hasn't thought about that and wondered what she will do about explaining everything to them, or what she will do about raising kids with a much older father, who will I'm guessing be in his 70's? when they are ready to go to college. There are only so many directions this can head in at this point, and honestly it may be best to deal with this now if it hasn't already been because what you may ultimately realize is that you might need to completely cut ties.

I'm curious to know how much you've thought about all of this and more than anything I'd like to hear that YOU find happiness in the end of all of this. We may share quite a bit in common in some ways, and I think you'd do well to realize that YOU have options that you can act on that may be eye opening for the both of them.

Good luck.

Welcome to OHW, Zampano.



Mia

[b_p]

Dave, I hope that you'll continue to post in this thread. But if not, that's okay. Please just let us know where to find the next one and what it's called.

I can see very clearly that it's one thing if Jenna cheated on you, and it's very definitely a different one for you if your step-father was cheating on your mom while she was still alive. And I don't blame you for that at all.

It's just fun and games when it's about the relationship with you. It's entirely a different matter if it pertained to your mom, who we have to assume was not consenting to it.

On a different note, I disagree with those who have said that now Paige is a suitable match for you as a long term partner. I still think she's too much of a party girl and not a grown-up. However, she has shown that she does have limits when it comes to the situation you've described. She doesn't appear to have expected the intensity of your reaction, but she realized that it was relevant information for you. I give her some points for that.

This would also tend to confirm what Paige has shared recently, that Jenna was not the pure white snowflake she presented herself as. It's my personal opinion (and you know how much opinions are worth, of course) that Jenna played into your image of what you wanted, as your wife. That is, that she presented herself as what you were looking for, starting as far back as when you were first getting to know her.

I had a relationship go sour quite a few years ago. One of the things I learned from that particular relationship is that people have a tendency to present themselves as what you're looking for, particularly if there's something they want from it. That's why so many people seem to change right after they get married, although in Jenna's case, I think she managed to keep up that front for quite a while longer.

Thanks again for sharing your experiences and feelings with us, and if you decide to move to another thread, plus let us all know where to find it.

[curiousdave]

Anyway, what interests me is the possibility of Jen and your dad having children together. I think as you mentioned not too long ago that it is a blessing there are not children involved. However, I can't imagine she hasn't thought about that and wondered what she will do about explaining everything to them, or what she will do about raising kids with a much older father, who will I'm guessing be in his 70's? when they are ready to go to college. There are only so many directions this can head in at this point, and honestly it may be best to deal with this now if it hasn't already been because what you may ultimately realize is that you might need to completely cut ties.

Hi thanks for your interest Zampano. From what I know from Jenna, children are very much in the future plans. She wants them (always did after the age of 30)which she is fast approaching. I will assume now that she was waiting to score her man (the right man) before going this route. They just married and launched a new business for her so it may be a little while, or maybe it won't. But unless there are unforeseen issues ahead I anticipate they will have a child or children sooner or later. Yes he will be an old dad for sure. But as of right now he is very fit and athletic and seems much younger than his age would say he is. He's a very driven man who takes pride in his looks and health and am sure he will be able to keep up, at least for a good while. Long enough to help raise a child I'm sure.

I have not 100% cut ties but it seems to be going in that direction. So probably by the time a child is born I will just be a memory to them. I doubt there will ever be any issues they need to address concerning the child and explaining me to them. Hope this answers your questions.

[curiousdave]

On a different note, I disagree with those who have said that now Paige is a suitable match for you as a long term partner. I still think she's too much of a party girl and not a grown-up. However, she has shown that she does have limits when it comes to the situation you've described. She doesn't appear to have expected the intensity of your reaction, but she realized that it was relevant information for you. I give her some points for that.

This would also tend to confirm what Paige has shared recently, that Jenna was not the pure white snowflake she presented herself as. It's my personal opinion (and you know how much opinions are worth, of course) that Jenna played into your image of what you wanted, as your wife. That is, that she presented herself as what you were looking for, starting as far back as when you were first getting to know her.

Everything you say is correct. She is immature and a party girl and probably not the right match for anyone right now (as far as a wife or life partner) goes. But I'll be honest I am becoming more and more attached to her. I'm not in love I don't think. It doesn't feel the same as it did with Jenna, not by a long shot. But I am having feelings for Paige and those feelings seem to be growing everyday. In ways she totally dominates my thoughts and at the very least I have a major crush and a huge amount of Lust for her. Lately she's been showing me a little bit of a softer more caring side which has only lead to my feelings growing stronger. I am not pushing these thoughts and feelings on her though because I am aware she isn't interested in any kind of commitments right now. I am still cool with that. I just enjoy her presence in my life... a lot!

And I'm very aware now Jenna was never a perfect snow flake. I never thought she was really, I knew and talked about her flaws here. I just was so in love even her flaws were appealing. I am un-decided on whether Jen and Dad cheated on my mother too. There is really no way for me to know without finding out from one of them and that's not gonna happen. I mean how could I believe what they said anyway? But really I've moved past all that stuff now, honestly. I am not mad, I am not thinking about it other than to talk about it now. Believe it or not I'm back in a happy place and enjoying life at the moment.

Keeping this thread alive or starting a new one doesn't really matter to me. I am ok with either option, that's why I asked for opinions here. it seems like the majority would prefer I kept this one going, am I getting the right message there? Like I said, no difference to me at this point. What I share will still be here one way or another so what's the difference?

So right now I am wishing John and Jenna well and I hope everything goes according to their plans for them. Have a long and happy marriage, many wonderful and healthy children, long lives , so on.

For me I want to continue having fun with Paige. Hopefully we continue on our current path of evolving slowly into something a little bit more than just occasional fuck buddies. I like it when she's sweet and caring and a tad bit "girlfriendish" with me. She actually pulls it off rather nicely considering how she can be on the other side of things. She's so naturally domme and sexy, if she was my girlfriend I would never have to encourage or push for anything. It comes very natural to her.

Anyway have a happy new year gang I'm going out in a couple of hours with Paige and friends and I hope to have a big bang for the end of this year!

[Cancun]

Dave,
I love your writing style and would be interested in how a cuck at heart would live his life. A single guy looking for a cuck mate seems to be very interesting. Do you risk telling them everything up front, spring it on them latter, look for the girl that is turned that way already. Keep in touch, please.

Another Dave

[rs480]

Happy New Year Dave!

[Txcuck]

personally , I would hate to to see this thread die and drop off. There is to much that has happened, too much effort, joy, heartache and cautionary held in it's pages for those that come along and read it in the future, for it to be lost. It is rare for a story here to be so well documented throughout, both the good and bad. The usual story starts going bad and the teller disappears, never to be heard from again. I say keep it going, until, Jen and your Dad are no longer part of the tale and you are ready to move on with a new experience with a new love interest. Vanilla, kinky or cuckold- I hope you keep us informed.

[b_p]

I'll be honest I am becoming more and more attached to her. I'm not in love I don't think. It doesn't feel the same as it did with Jenna, not by a long shot. But I am having feelings for Paige and those feelings seem to be growing everyday.

My opinion is that it's biochemical. I think for most people, if you have sex with someone enough times, it's very difficult not to develop feelings for the person. At least that's true for me.

I'm glad to hear that it looks like you'll be continuing to post in this thread, rather than moving to a new one.

Thanks!

[vicg]

I'm in strong agreement with MrAugustluv24 ... it would be valuable to have this thread continue.

Couples enter this lifestyle in various ways. Some are successful, and have ongoing adventures. Others fail; sometimes their marriage is just fine, but some couples go through very difficult times, including divorce.

The successful couples frequently have long-lived threads chronicling their adventures. The others, more often than not, stop coming here. Their threads eventually stay inactive for long enough that they are removed from the server.

The result is that much of the time, the threads here present a somewhat unrealistic picture of this lifestyle. A newcomer here will see many threads about how wonderful the hotwife lifestyle is, a few that describe struggles, and almost none that show just how bad it can be when things go wrong.

Dave, there's a lot that we who want to share our wives can learn from your story. And it's especially helpful that you've written about going all the way through the bad ending to start building a new happy ending on the other side. I would hate for that to disappear from this place.

[curiousdave]

I know this is a big tease but just a heads up, I have a super duper great update coming very soon. It's Paige related, not Jenna but I know some of you are going to totally LOVE it. It's crazy hot!

I just got to have some time to write it down properly. Hopefully this weekend I can get it done. It's a doozy, can't wait for you all to read about it!

[boing469]

Really happy to hear you have a hot doozy story for us Dave... especially so as it involves the sex-crazed Paige !!

A nice way to ring in the New Year ... with lots of juicy OOOOOs... all the best to you in 2014!

[D+D]

Yea! Looking forward to it Dave. Great to see you excited. Who cares about Jenna and old what's his name. This is the Paige era and I'm betting she's getting the hots for you. So she parties. She comes back and plays with you. Sounds like a hell of a setup to me. Can't wait to hear.

[WildMiCouple]

Dave, look forward to hearing about your new fun with Paige.

[rayraytrovalone]

I first found this thread when Daves wife said she was teasing his dad about them being a married couple, then the thread seemed to die off with no more replies from dave. That was a hell of a cliff hanger.. Just found it again tonight and caught up.

Just want to say that I was pretty sure she was having sex with him before the cuckold idea was introduced to her, because she cried that one time at the beginning when Dave was talking about it with her. Seemed like she was feeling really guilty... I have been in a situation -sort of- like that.. Then i started to suspect she was going to leave Dave for Daves dad, then it happened...
It's sort of a fetish for me when a guy tried cuckolding and it blows up in his face, or when a girlfriend or wife cheats and the hubby sees it happen or its right under his nose. This story didn't disappoint in that regard.. Was a real roller coaster though, from making me horny to making me feel so bad for Dave that I felt sick to my stomach, even had some bile come up in my throat, not sure if its just acid reflux or what but damn this story was intense for me.

Glad there is a happy ending for Dave. This is a legendary thread/story. Just wanted to share my thoughts.

[Wannabecuckold_86]

I know this is a big tease but just a heads up, I have a super duper great update coming very soon. It's Paige related, not Jenna but I know some of you are going to totally LOVE it. It's crazy hot!

I just got to have some time to write it down properly. Hopefully this weekend I can get it done. It's a doozy, can't wait for you all to read about it!

Come on, we're waiting!