Kill Bill...Asking wife to dump BF?!?!

[sidestreet]

Thus confirming you were right to ask her to stop seeing Bill.

[Artimas]

She's gone man, left you in the dust like her previous husband(s). Admit it and move on.

[agawim]

Sorry to hear that SM,

I am not going to give you any advise don't worry.

Good luck, trying to figure this out.

Wim

[SmilingHusband]

Maybe your best choice is to let her start fucking him again. Ride it out. Try to enjoy it. .

that's just brilliant.

[traycir]

IMO time to head for the life boats! I don't mean to leave the marriage...necessarily, but that it is time for you to start thinking about you. Through all this you seem to have looked at this as either what is best for the relationship, or for her. Her actions show that her priority is her and only her. It's a tough place, and I don't envy you, but I think you need to look after yourself and protect yourself. Samantha apparently reached that place some time ago. If you haven't already I really think you might want to look into going to couples therapy. I agree with what people here seem to be saying here that the real issue is no longer even Bill, its the loss of trust.

[mopacpower]

Well Damn!

No "I told you so" from us, just keep talking, and don't do anything rash. Maybe you guys should have the Sat. and Sun for each other, and Friday night would be the other guys, but she has to be home by Noon on Sat?

we will pray

[SmilingHusband]

yep. only a douche would kick a man when he was down. we're here for you man. you are very open here with your dialog. you've got the collective wisdom of OHW here at your disposal.

for once I am at a loss as how to advise you. At this point all I can think of is Icarus. Hang in there brother.

[mundyman]

Well that's a kick in the stomach I never saw coming. Thanks for your honesty and courage in sharing this heartbreaking news.
I'm sorry to hear this SM.
Continue to follow your gut and your heart.
To thine self be true.
I continue to hope for the best.
You're in my thoughts.

[Samanthasman]

Have not read anything posted here today but just wanted to do a quick update.

Today was a good day. Seems that last night things got heated and things got said. Today was a great family day. By this afternoon my wife at one point said "how about I spend one more night with Bill and then we call the whole HW thing quits!". In other words, she's backed way down from saying "my way or the highway". She repeated many times that I and our family are more important than Bill and a fantasy, but she still wants to find a way to make it all work. I guess this is one of those bumps some people talk about...

[allengt]

No, she just said the ball is in your court. Either I fuck Bill as much as I want or all hotwifing is over.

[davidm205]

Allen, correct and I will point out the trust thing again.......,

She was talking to Bill behind your back until you caught her.

Might hide her tracks better to where she believes she won't get caught and snow job you going forward.

Your hurt and want everything to be alright.

Smart people tend to make great actors.

Smart people might, just might, take the long view and plan for their future with Bill. This is only a guess.

Just want to point out the potential dark side to help you see what is possible.

We only know what you say however it is easy to say you saw her true love for Bill last night when you caught her off guard. Today you saw the actress saying everything is going to be ok.

It is not logical that just one more night with Bill is going to make this all go away.

More like backing you down where you need to stand your ground and not relent.

[mopacpower]

My 2 cents, Let her go, but you go and watch them or listen to them from her cell phone, then stop the H/W thing and keep the family together.

You could keep it as a fantasy, but no old flames, only new people, maybe get into swinging.

No Bill, at all and if he contacts her, she should tell you. It is a matter of trust for you, make sure she knows this.

Good luck, hope it works out.

[old folks]

No, she just said the ball is in your court. Either I fuck Bill as much as I want or all hotwifing is over.

If there was a "Like" button, I would have hit it 100 times on your accurate and well stated two sentences.

[agawim]

how about I spend one more night with Bill and then we call the whole HW thing quits!"

MANUPILATION at work again, and you not telling her NO immediately shows your inability to make decisions and stand your ground.

For her those remarks/questions are simply tests she puts before you to see how you respond, she is testing the waters on how far she can push you and so far you have not pushed back.

I don't want to put you down SM, I simply want to try and point out what is going on, eventhough you are right there you seem to be blind and deaf. (At least as far as I can tell from what you write here)

Good luck, to both of you I hope you will work it out somehow.

Wim

[MrsTruckstar]

how about I spend one more night with Bill and then we call the whole HW thing quits!"

MANUPILATION at work again, and you not telling her NO immediately shows your inability to make decisions and stand your ground.

For her those remarks/questions are simply tests she puts before you to see how you respond, she is testing the waters on how far she can push you and so far you have not pushed back.

I don't want to put you down SM, I simply want to try and point out what is going on, eventhough you are right there you seem to be blind and deaf. (At least as far as I can tell from what you write here)

Good luck, to both of you I hope you will work it out somehow.

Wim

Not a criticism of you Wim, I do support you and I know English is not your first language, I am adding to what you put. The bit in red is absolutely correct but I would add to SM, that it shows your vulnerability, in that she knows that she can keep chipping away at your resolve until you crack. I think you made the right decision, so you have the ability to make it, maybe too vulnerable to stick to it. You have a lot to lose and she wants Bill but is annoyed with you.

I would be very suspicious of those calls. You saw Sid go in the back door (Google back door girls, as somebody said, any other time, that could be quite a funny joke). I feel for you, hard times ahead.

[WantMore]

No, she just said the ball is in your court. Either I fuck Bill as much as I want or all hotwifing is over.

Im gonna try to be as nice as I can, but Im mad at your wife pal!

You have a great family day while knowing she is chatting with a man that she shouldnt be... You have zero control over her. You are becoming a cuckold with a cheating wife.

Until she decides her and Bill is over, everything she tells you now is bullshit. Your wife isnt capable of being a hotwife because she has no honor for you. It doesnt matter what your needs are. If she enjoys hotwifing she enjoys honoring your needs and boundries. The wifes part of hotwifing is honoring your needs and showing respect for your boundries. Your wife might have thought shes a hotwife, but no, shes a controlling, manipulative cuckoldress!

[seductionrules]

Hi SM

Maybe ask her how she thinks this is all going to end?

And what would she do in your situation?

Best Wishes

Regards

Mr. SR

[MrsTruckstar]

Hi SM

Maybe ask her how she thinks this is all going to end?

And what would she do in your situation?

Best Wishes

Regards

Mr. SR

While you are at it why don't you ask her what she would do if he (Bill) were to win the lottery. Or if he was an Astronaut or a fire fighter.

What would you do in my shoes or if I was behaving the same way are pointless. Because you are not. Run on facts, planning and trust.

[davidm205]

Might be willing to bet she does not want him to login here anymore.

In the past she told him there were way too many negative people here and wanted him to take a break.

We are only concerned for both of you and the success both of you have built together.

Ask yourself why did she not want you here in the past in the face of reality today?

A wise person will always take council and give careful consideration to the experience of others who have made the same mistakes or seen them in others.

Most all here do not want to see your marriage fail. We want to see it all work out. However, it takes two partners working hand in hand to make this work. Wonder who is the self centered one and broke your mutual agreed rules?

[SmilingHusband]

Have not read anything posted here today but just wanted to do a quick update.

Today was a good day. Seems that last night things got heated and things got said. Today was a great family day. By this afternoon my wife at one point said "how about I spend one more night with Bill and then we call the whole HW thing quits!". In other words, she's backed way down from saying "my way or the highway". She repeated many times that I and our family are more important than Bill and a fantasy, but she still wants to find a way to make it all work. I guess this is one of those bumps some people talk about...

(face palm)

[redskull]

sm,

tell her you want to be a HH and there is woman interested and it's Bill"s
wife, imagine that reaction. goodluck writings on the wall and you are
controlling the pen.

[DaBolts]

Good luck man...
What I did when Mrs Dabolts was seeing a guy I didnt trust anymore was to put my foot down and tell her to stop seeing him. She agreed but resented me for it. We fought often about little things and it always came up. I knew I needed to change strategy and I did. I told her she could keep seeing him but she should know I got no pleasure out of it anymore. I told her I wanted her to be happy and that I would not stand in her way. I also said I was not giving up on us but was going to still try and win her back. (Never lost her but she knew what I meant). I also told her I was done facilitating her to see him and I wanted equal free time as her so I could also do as I pleased.
she saw him one more time and ended it. She knew I was not bluffing and didnt want me dating other women

[SmilingHusband]

DB, that's serious "brinkmanship". glad it worked out for you. could just as easily have gone the other way, IMO.

[luvMyHotwife]

Sam wants to cuckold you because 1) she is totally addicted to extramarital sex and 2) she is devoted to her family and wants to keep you around. So let her have her way with Bill and be happy with the family life that you have. Tell her that she can handle her sex life how she wants, but that you expect her to show devotion to you and the family. Hopefully she will keep you in the loop as far as the fun she is having, but that is up to her. Most wives are much more passive than Sam, but I certainly could respect her the way she is (what does that say about me?). Also, start posting in the cuckold forum, because that is where you belong.

[SmilingHusband]

woof, that ought to be a mutual decision/choice. to have it decided for you? that's loserville.

"respect her for the way she is?" lol, I think not. (balance of comment not even typed. it stayed in the mind).