Another man loves my wife

[co-husband]

Hi Malnik..thanks for your comments! I do understand your point.

I suppose every man is different, and I can only speak for myself on this issue. Personally the satisfaction that I've received already from sharing my wife is not so much the gratuitous details of their sex, but it's more the emotional, even psychological intensity of knowing that another man has had the level of intimacy with my wife that I cannot share with them. Even if I knew the details, it was still THEIR sexual experience and only they can know the feelings they had with each other during the sex.
So part of the arousal for me has been not knowing the details, but letting them have some privacy in their own relationship.

This would make for a good discussion to hear from other husbands and how they feel about it. But for me, I guess if I wanted a "blow by blow" (pun intended of the sex, I would just watch some porn and imagine it was Juli and Brian.

Mark

[bubbajack]

" ... The reality lies with Juli ..."

Word.

[Samanthasman]

My favorite porn are the white hot videos of my wife in action...

[NC-hotwife-hubby]

I wish I could watch her wife in action.. I know she is hotter than any porn star ....

[co-husband]

I have to report a new development! Juli just took her shower and then showed me that she has trimmed her pubic hair back to just a strip above her clit!. She called it a "poodle cut". Ive not heard of that before. Have any of you? It's just a strip of long hair above her clit but shaved everywhere else. So I can only assume that she did this for Brian. He may have told her how he prefers a woman to look. After years of keeping a full bush, she suddenly trims it way back without asking or telling me ahead of time.

I love it! My wife is changing intimate parts of her own body not for me, but for another man! This feels amazing and I just had to share it here. This all happened within the last 15 minutes.

I'll try to discreetly get a pic to share soon if I can.

Mark

[gamma]

Juli has trimmed her pubic hair back to just a strip above her clit!. She called it a "poodle cut". Ive not heard of that before. Have any of you?

I know it as a 'Brazilian' if the thin strip runs directly upward from her clitoris and is fairly short.


Thanks for sharing, sounds like serious progress!

[D+D]

Thanks for sharing. I hope that you are really ready for Brian to become the predominate and alpha male in Julie ' s sexuality because it is definitely headed that way. I must admit that it is very very hot that she's doing this for him then showing you the results. Will be anxiously waiting for a pic of your lovely hot wife's new look.

[armyguyot1]

My wife came up with the idea of shaving while I was in Iraq. We both did and both love it. I think it was another missed opportunity to take it further but hind site is so fucking good.

[malnik]

I think it sounds like Juli is looking at this as a new relationship. Sure, she knows Brian and has for a long time, but the euphoria of a new relationship always gets exciting for the participants. The couple always want to do things for each other.....its not unusual. If as you say, Brian mentioned he likes shaved, probably just in conversation, Juli has taken it on-board and wants to please and surprise him. Thats a great sign for them.
My experience has been that when i first meet a couple in this situation, the bond between myself and the lady has been very powerful in the first instance....they would do anything (within reason!), to please me, the husband was a by-product.
Im sure in Juli's mind she is full of excitement and anticipation, if she is doing this for Brian i think you wont have to wait long for the next instalment. You need to encourage her to share it with him....gently, without suggesting you know its for him.
Keep telling her how beautiful shge is and how you are enjoying her new found freedom.....

[Frakkmywife]

I have to report a new development! Juli just took her shower and then showed me that she has trimmed her pubic hair back to just a strip above her clit!. She called it a "poodle cut". Ive not heard of that before. Have any of you? It's just a strip of long hair above her clit but shaved everywhere else. So I can only assume that she did this for Brian. He may have told her how he prefers a woman to look. After years of keeping a full bush, she suddenly trims it way back without asking or telling me ahead of time.

I love it! My wife is changing intimate parts of her own body not for me, but for another man! This feels amazing and I just had to share it here. This all happened within the last 15 minutes.

I'll try to discreetly get a pic to share soon if I can.

Mark

Wow, Mark! That's actually pretty hot. Enjoy it, for sure. I know every time the Mrs. shaves her pussy it drives me wild and leads to fantastic sex. That would be magnified if she was to ever say "Well "Robert" (the other guy that fucked her earlier in our marriage) likes it shaved down there".

[JRE]

I have to report a new development! Juli just took her shower and then showed me that she has trimmed her pubic hair back to just a strip above her clit!. She called it a "poodle cut". Ive not heard of that before. Have any of you? It's just a strip of long hair above her clit but shaved everywhere else. So I can only assume that she did this for Brian. He may have told her how he prefers a woman to look. After years of keeping a full bush, she suddenly trims it way back without asking or telling me ahead of time.

I love it! My wife is changing intimate parts of her own body not for me, but for another man! This feels amazing and I just had to share it here. This all happened within the last 15 minutes.

I'll try to discreetly get a pic to share soon if I can.

Mark

I'm know I'm guilty of playing untrained psychologist again, but with that small alteration of the way she looks, she is telling both of you that she has emotionally accepted the decision to become the lover for two men. It's a private physical change that others will never see, but is lovingly offered to the two men whose acceptance she cares about . Your approval of the trim will tell her that all is still well with you and that you understand the significance of the change, and it's also a subtle message of submission to Brian. She has complied with his preference because she wants the sexual part of their friendship to be more than a one time thing.When she is convinced that she has made both of her men happy, she can bring Brian into a comfortable three way relationship that now includes guilt-free intimacy to show her affection.

Congratulations Mark, you have a marvelous wife that is the envy of everyone, and you did a wonderful job of guiding the three of you into the situation that is now clearly what you all wanted to experience. For me, it's been like reading an erotic novel I didn't want to put down, and now I'm forced into waiting...very impatiently...for the sequel!

[co-husband]

Thank you for your comments. Yesterday when Juli had taken her shower, while she was still in the bathroom, she said to me as I passed by the door..."Come here and I'll show you what I did". Her trimming her pussy was NOT at all what I was expecting. As I said, she has kept her pussy full ever since we've been married...33 years. So when I walked in and there was all that bare skin with only a patch of hair above her clit...wow, I just couldn't believe it! lol

She was smiling and so proud, and of course I really went on and on about how much I loved it. I could tell that she was feeling more horny all day. We often mentioned that she was my "poodle girl" now lol. Last night she wanted to have sex and when she took her clothes off, I got a better look at it. There is even less hair than I thought there was. I think right out of the shower in the morning, her hair was more fluffed and looked more like a small but full patch. However last night when her hair was dry, it looks just like a small landing strip above her clit. Really sexy!

I also was bold enough to just say to her that.."Brian is really going to love this. Did he ask you to trim it?". She replied that he had just mentioned to her (that first night they were together on Valentine's weekend), that he liked to see a woman "less bushy". So I deduced two things from that. First it impressed me that Brian, a man who had not had sex in almost a year, was bold enough to complain about her pubic hair being too thick. That tells me he really is an Alpha male.
Secondly, it confirmed to me that Juli trimmed her hair because she wanted to please Brian. I also know they are working on plans to meet again next week. No details yet as to when but I'll keep all of you informed on that.

To Malnik..I really like your use of the term "euphoria" to describe Juli's demeanor since the Valentine's weekend. It really is like she and Brian are teenagers newly dating each other. That excitement of a new and intimate relationship, and the natural desire to be together again soon. I really believe that Juli had originally planned to make her sexual relationship with Brian to be more of an occasional mercy fuck. But after experiencing sex with him, now they both want to do it again sooner than Juli may have thought she would. I guess it would be similar to a couple having sex on their wedding night, but then planning to abstain the rest of the honeymoon!

JRE...You are so right about this..

"...with that small alteration of the way she looks, she is telling both of you that she has emotionally accepted the decision to become the lover for two men. It's a private physical change that others will never see, but is lovingly offered to the two men whose acceptance she cares about .

Juli has now changed the most intimate and private part of her body, not just for her husband but for her lover too. I was very vocal all day about how much I liked her new look, and also how I know Brian will too. My approval plus the anticipation of Brian seeing her new look, I could tell has her very excited. And as far as I know, she has not told Brian but probably wants to surprise him the next time they are together.

Mark

[D+D]

Very exciting Mark. We are privileged to have been able to follow your journey. Thanks.

[jane]

very sweet thread.

[malnik]

Juli has now changed the most intimate and private part of her body, not just for her husband but for her lover too. I was very vocal all day about how much I liked her new look, and also how I know Brian will too. My approval plus the anticipation of Brian seeing her new look, I could tell has her very excited. And as far as I know, she has not told Brian but probably wants to surprise him the next time they are together.

Mark

Mark....she hasnt done it for you. You seem to think its for you and Brian.....sorry to say if it was for you, it would have been done years ago.
I can only imagine her thoughts and excitement to shave it for him....thats so special. And can you imagine Brians reaction when he puts his hand between her legs and feels that soft luxurious skin instead of hair...as she whispers in his ear..."its for you Brian".
I can see it in my head right now...as he realises and they kiss passionately.....2 lovers, giving each other everything.
I cant wait to hear the reaction. If she tells you.....

[tigerjph]

From what you say it is clear Brian is an alpha. Also, Julie seems very keen to please him. This is going to be very exciting for you. In your heart you already know that soon she is going to service him any which way he wants.

[Janes Husband]

Another man loving your wife is a good thing in a way. At least you know he will treat her well when they are together. In this lifestyle that is a concern as there are men out there that are not so kind to women as we know. It sounds as if your wife is handling it well so far, as you are too. Still, be cautious as to your friend's intention's.

[bubbajack]

Juli has now changed the most intimate and private part of her body, not just for her husband but for her lover too. I was very vocal all day about how much I liked her new look, and also how I know Brian will too. My approval plus the anticipation of Brian seeing her new look, I could tell has her very excited. And as far as I know, she has not told Brian but probably wants to surprise him the next time they are together.

Mark

Mark....she hasnt done it for you. You seem to think its for you and Brian.....sorry to say if it was for you, it would have been done years ago.
I can only imagine her thoughts and excitement to shave it for him....thats so special. And can you imagine Brians reaction when he puts his hand between her legs and feels that soft luxurious skin instead of hair...as she whispers in his ear..."its for you Brian".
I can see it in my head right now...as he realises and they kiss passionately.....2 lovers, giving each other everything.
I cant wait to hear the reaction. If she tells you.....

Malnik's comment emphasizes the relative status of Mark and Brian in Juli's sex life, now that there are two and not just one.

According to what I take to be Malnik's view, Brian's status is now necessarily higher than Mark's in some way that is hugely important, resulting in the diminution of Mark's.

But the evidence we have supports the conclusion that Juli has shaved her pussy both "for" Brian and also "for" Mark, since she plans on continuing to fuck them both and was delighted that Mark enjoyed the new look.

It's not necessarily true that something new happening in a marriage, just because it was suggested by someone other than one of the spouses, represents a decline in the spouses' loving regard for one another. To be sure, there is a definite change - but why need it imply a hierarchical demotion for anyone? How do we know which of the complex elements of mutual love and respect between spouses have been changed and how those changes are manifested in the quality of their relationship?

I get that some cucks enjoy taking a decisively lower-status position across a wide range of marital relational dynamics. But I don't see that as essential to the practice of a couple sharing the wife sexually with another man for the enjoyment of all three. It is potentially as much an enrichment of the love and beauty of the marital relationship as an impoverishment.

To be sure, there is a cultural bias - verging on obsession - in the direction of degrading a man who would let another man fuck his - I almost wrote "property" - wife. But given the deeply interwoven strands of male domination of marriage running through that cultural inheritance, I think that bias is something it would be good to outgrow.

[co-husband]

Thanks..Yes bubbajack I really don't feel that I've taken a less important role in Juli's life just because she is excited about her new sexual relationship with Brian. In fact, one of the things that has surprised me about our new 3-way sexual relationship with Brian (I say 3-way not that we have done or will do a MFM with him, but Juli is now having sex with both Brian and I, so I consider him to be a part of our sex life). The surprise has been just how "normal" our interaction still is with Brian in public or even when we all 3 are together. The conversations do not involve talking about sex. We still discuss everyday things just like we always have. It's kind of like any married couple. Everyone knows that a husband and wife have sex, but you don't talk about that in their company. So it seems to be with Brian. Obviously he and I know that the other has had sex with the same woman, but we don't talk about it in conversation.

I'm sure we each get a certain type of arousal now being around each other, just knowing that we share the same woman so intimately. My arousal may be different than his. He may consider me a weak husband allowing another man to have my wife without complaining, (I don't know that he feels that way), but I'm sure he is happy whatever he thinks my motivations are lol. So I expect he and I will continue to be friendly as we always have been, but privately knowing that we both share total intimacy with Juli. He has his sexual relationship with her in their own way, just as Juli and I have as a married couple. No need for a lot of words.

BTW....To let you know I was able to post a pic of Juli's new trimmed pussy look. It's in the Hotties Forum (My wife Juli).

Mark

[CuckedIn67]

Perfectly executed and I love your wife's new role.

[gamma]

It's interesting to speculate to what extent Juli has told Brian the degree of your acquiescence or enthusiasm towards their relationship. And any alluding to a possible difference of performance.
From what you said earlier in the thread, she is probably sensitive to both of you getting along and being 'fair' to each of you.

But from Brian's alpha perspective, he may consider you not as weak, but simply views you as a friend as always, albeit as a passive beta male, who willingly allows his wife access to the top male for mating rights, but with the right social skills to keep the relationships stable in the best interests of all.

[malnik]

According to what I take to be Malnik's view, Brian's status is now necessarily higher than Mark's in some way that is hugely important, resulting in the diminution of Mark's.

You are correct. It wasnt meant to come across like that. Only this afternooon I was thinking about this post and thought it wasnt meant that you Mark, are any less important to Juli. She is coping with you both rather well.
I meant that she is coming to terms with what you both want......and Brian mentioned this, so he got it. Thats not to say that if you asked for something else, you wouldnt get that too.
I bow to my other participants better understanding.......I blame cricket. Sorry...that was another thread!

Im enjoying this immensely.

[malnik]

Obviously he and I know that the other has had sex with the same woman, but we don't talk about it in conversation.

Mark

Isnt that the darnedest thing? Ive mentioned before...its just so natural to these girls!

Is this what you Americans call the elephant in the room? Do you think it will ever come up? I think it could be a little awkward eventually when, after dessert, she gets up and just leaves with Brian for the night? Or is it just so natural.....

No criticism here people...just asking!

[co-husband]

To answer gamma's post...

It's interesting to speculate to what extent Juli has told Brian the degree of your acquiescence or enthusiasm towards their relationship. And any alluding to a possible difference of performance.
From what you said earlier in the thread, she is probably sensitive to both of you getting along and being 'fair' to each of you.

But from Brian's alpha perspective, he may consider you not as weak, but simply views you as a friend as always, albeit as a passive beta male, who willingly allows his wife access to the top male for mating rights, but with the right social skills to keep the relationships stable in the best interests of all.

Yes, I think your assessment is spot on. Juli was careful not to disclose too may details of the sex she had with Brian on that weekend. I think partially to avoid open comparisons between our performances, but also to guard the sanctity of the sexual intimacy that any couple shares alone, even if they are not married. So I do expect that Juli will view her sex with Brian and her sex with me, as two separate relationships. And I agree too that the differences in the personalities between Brian and myself are obvious to all. I am more passive and he more Alpha (not limited to the sexual connotation of that word, but also in general). Our friendship continues as it always has been socially, but now also in our own private thoughts, aware that the other shares intimacy with Juli.)

Which leads to Malnik's question

Isnt that the darnedest thing? Ive mentioned before...its just so natural to these girls!

Is this what you Americans call the elephant in the room? Do you think it will ever come up? I think it could be a little awkward eventually when, after dessert, she gets up and just leaves with Brian for the night? Or is it just so natural.....

Yes, you're right malnik...it is what we call the elephant in the room. Brian and I are very aware of what the other has experienced, but still able to act as if we do not know. (Which I suppose we don't fully know what the other has experienced with Juli, because sex is just so private between a man and woman. Yes I know the mechanics of the sex they enjoyed, but I am excluded from the emotional bond they felt during their time in bed. And Brian cannot fully know the emotional intimacy that Juli and I enjoy alone). Perhaps someday if Brian and I are talking privately, we may mention the fact that we are having sex with the same woman, but even then, I think my previous point will remain valid, that no matter how much we talk about it, we can never really comprehend the private relationship that we each have with Juli.
Hope that makes sense...

Mark

[bradisalpha]

mark and Brian may never have the necessity of "talking" about their relationship. It is very natural A d well established that the "Stallion" will pick from the herd to satisfy his Dominant Alpha needs and then return the mare to her mate to graze peacefully. That is the animal kingdom helping us to understand these urges.

mark respects Brian as that "Stallion" and will follow and obey his wishes as a beta male. Brian respects mark as the cuckold that will give Juli peace at home with her family and the security she needs until the next time her Stallion calls for her. Juli respects both of them for the rolls that they play in her life ... Brian is her Stallion and she will obey his every wish... mark is her cuckold and will be there to serve her always. What a beautifully fulfilled relationship !!

We are all animals by nature !!

Brad