It's happened!

[viking53]

When I asked Jen if she was sure, she replied, "Yeah. It's kind of cool actually! I mean I have zero interest in fucking you, so it would be kind of nice to have Cassie take you off my hands sexually for now. I'd also feel much less guilty about everything. I think that this will help me to think less about your sexual needs and that'll help me to enjoy being with Brian even more!"

Jen has clearly expressed that she wants someone else to replace Brian when he leaves and is not interested in Michael. I really wonder where she wants to go with all this in the future. If you take up the offer with Cassie, I think you are setting the pathway for the future.

[excitedcuckold]

When I asked Jen if she was sure, she replied, "Yeah. It's kind of cool actually! I mean I have zero interest in fucking you, so it would be kind of nice to have Cassie take you off my hands sexually for now. I'd also feel much less guilty about everything. I think that this will help me to think less about your sexual needs and that'll help me to enjoy being with Brian even more!"

Jen has clearly expressed that she wants someone else to replace Brian when he leaves and is not interested in Michael. I really wonder where she wants to go with all this in the future. If you take up the offer with Cassie, I think you are setting the pathway for the future.

I feel like you're reaching, viking. You're basically putting words in Jen's mouth and predicting actions that haven't actually happened. Jen hasn't said anything about wanting to replace Brian with someone else after he moves. She's having a blast fucking Brian for now and she's going to get to keep enjoying it into August. After Brian is gone, I'm looking forward to having sex with my wife again.

In the meanwhile, I have a date with Cassie this Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes!

[Zona]

When I asked Jen if she was sure, she replied, "Yeah. It's kind of cool actually! I mean I have zero interest in fucking you, so it would be kind of nice to have Cassie take you off my hands sexually for now. I'd also feel much less guilty about everything. I think that this will help me to think less about your sexual needs and that'll help me to enjoy being with Brian even more!"

After Brian is gone, I'm looking forward to having sex with my wife again.

I must have missed it. Exactly where in this thread has Jen mentioned that she EVER wants to have sex with you again?

Does she have a switch she can just flip on and decide she wants to fuck you after Brian leaves?

[excitedcuckold]

When I asked Jen if she was sure, she replied, "Yeah. It's kind of cool actually! I mean I have zero interest in fucking you, so it would be kind of nice to have Cassie take you off my hands sexually for now. I'd also feel much less guilty about everything. I think that this will help me to think less about your sexual needs and that'll help me to enjoy being with Brian even more!"

After Brian is gone, I'm looking forward to having sex with my wife again.

I must have missed it. Exactly where in this thread has Jen mentioned that she EVER wants to have sex with you again?

Does she have a switch she can just flip on and decide she wants to fuck you after Brian leaves?

Haters gonna hate, Zona. Just saying.

[Zona]

When I asked Jen if she was sure, she replied, "Yeah. It's kind of cool actually! I mean I have zero interest in fucking you, so it would be kind of nice to have Cassie take you off my hands sexually for now. I'd also feel much less guilty about everything. I think that this will help me to think less about your sexual needs and that'll help me to enjoy being with Brian even more!"

After Brian is gone, I'm looking forward to having sex with my wife again.

I must have missed it. Exactly where in this thread has Jen mentioned that she EVER wants to have sex with you again?

Does she have a switch she can just flip on and decide she wants to fuck you after Brian leaves?

Haters gonna hate, Zona. Just saying.

Where the hell do you get "hate" out of my comment?

Read your first quote in my comment. ("I have zero interest in fucking you").

That is what led to my question. (Which you didn't answer, by the way. Or maybe you just don't have an answer.)

[norbertrichard]

Like Zona, i too wonder at Jen's statement. If you are of no interest to her, why did she marry you, she may love you as a great friend, but she certainly is not in love with you. I realize that the whole matter is out of your control, so you have no choice but to accept it, or bail. Sorry to say, but the day will come at some point, when you will wonder what the hell were you thinking. I hope it wont be to late for you to realize some reward in life.

[viking53]

I feel like you're reaching, viking. You're basically putting words in Jen's mouth and predicting actions that haven't actually happened. Jen hasn't said anything about wanting to replace Brian with someone else after he moves. She's having a blast fucking Brian for now and she's going to get to keep enjoying it into August. After Brian is gone, I'm looking forward to having sex with my wife again.

In the meanwhile, I have a date with Cassie this Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes!

Hi Michael

Sorry, I wasn't trying to put words in Jen's mouth, I was just trying to interpret your quotes of the conversation which I know are second-hand and not always word-for-word. I understood Jen's comments to be quite negative about future sex with you as expressed but you can best interpret exactly what she said.

However, I would raise a warning flag about Cassie. The further you go down that track, the more Jen will feel free to look elsewhere for her pleasure in the future. Although the short-term benefits for you are obvious (getting the sex you are denied by Jen), I think you should be aware of the long-term risks.

[excitedcuckold]

I feel like you're reaching, viking. You're basically putting words in Jen's mouth and predicting actions that haven't actually happened. Jen hasn't said anything about wanting to replace Brian with someone else after he moves. She's having a blast fucking Brian for now and she's going to get to keep enjoying it into August. After Brian is gone, I'm looking forward to having sex with my wife again.

In the meanwhile, I have a date with Cassie this Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes!

Hi Michael

Sorry, I wasn't trying to put words in Jen's mouth, I was just trying to interpret your quotes of the conversation which I know are second-hand and not always word-for-word. I understood Jen's comments to be quite negative about future sex with you as expressed but you can best interpret exactly what she said.

However, I would raise a warning flag about Cassie. The further you go down that track, the more Jen will feel free to look elsewhere for her pleasure in the future. Although the short-term benefits for you are obvious (getting the sex you are denied by Jen), I think you should be aware of the long-term risks.

Now that you put it that way, I get what you're saying better. Maybe you have a point. But, I think that would be more of an issue once Brian moves. If I'm still fucking Cassie after Brian is gone, maybe Jen will feel like she's got a pass to find a new guy on the side. I don't see it as being an issue right now though. Jen is exclusive with Brian for now. Jen isn't having sex with me anyways while she's with Brian. So, me being with Cassie doesn't affect anything. Except, to paraphrase Jen, it'll help Jen feel less guilty about friend-zoning me and writing me off as a sex partner while she's exclusive with Brian. I get that's kind of fucked up. But, it's also kind of cool too. I'm really turned on by this whole cuckold arrangement I've got going on. But, regardless of what you or any of the other posters think might happen in the future after Brian moves, the live-in arrangement still ends at that point. Knowing that, I want Jen and I to really enjoy what's left of it to the max! I'm turned on by Jen replacing me as her sex partner with Brian! If me getting with Cassie for now helps Jen feel better about our situation, all the better! Maybe it'll heighten the experience even more. And, yes, the short-term benefits of me getting laid by Cassie are nice!

Speaking of which, I had my date with Cassie yesterday evening. We went out for dinner to a really cool cafe that I really like. It's a bit of a hipster place, but it's also comfortable and a good place to talk and enjoy someone's company. I was really enjoying Cassie's company. She's easy to talk to and I feel like we have a lot in common. Even so, I don't think either of us would have necessarily thought of the other as boyfriend/girlfriend material though. But, in a situation like this, that didn't matter. There was a pre-existing friendship and also chemistry. The regular first date stuff didn't matter. We weren't there to find someone to marry (I'm already married to Jen, after all). We were there because Cassie told Jen she thinks I'm hot and wants to fuck me. I think having that knowledge out there put us at ease. It also gave me tons of confidence. I didn't have to read cues, make guesses, or try too hard. I could just enjoy the company of this really hot woman without all that stress and know that I was already as good as in.

Jen and Brian were at work, so I took Cassie back to my place and we fucked on mine and Jen's bed. At least that's how it looked to Cassie. Even though Cassie knows that Jen and Brian are fucking, she thinks that Brian sleeps in the study and that I sleep with Jen in the bedroom like normal. Cassie thinks that Jen and I are still having sex and that Brian is just a guy on the side. So, in Cassie's mind, we were fucking in mine and Jen's bed. But, in my mind, we were fucking in a bed that used to belong to Jen and I but now belonged to Jen and Brian. We were fucking in a bed that I hadn't fucked in in months and that I hardly ever got to sleep in anymore - maybe three or four times a month, after the occasional threesomes in which I'd service my wife and her lover and watch them fuck but not get any sex myself. I thought about these things as I was fucking Cassie. I also thought about the hot woman I was making out with, feeling on, and plowing. That was hot in its own, of course. But, I couldn't get images of Brian and Jen fucking out of my head. I couldn't get it out of my head that I was fucking Cassie because Jen had pawned me off on her so that Jen could enjoy being exclusive with Brian guilt-free. And I wasn't trying to get these twisted thoughts out my head either. Because, they only made the experience even hotter. While I plowed Cassie, I imagined Brian plowing Jen. I also thought about the twisted things Jen had said to me about having zero interest in fucking me and how much she enjoys being exclusive with Brian. All of these images and words just sort of swirled around in my head as I fucked Cassie and felt the inside of her nice tight pussy through the condom that I wore, while knowing that my own wife's pussy was off limits to me and that it was being fucked and ejaculated into just about every day by another man.

As I'm typing this out, I realize how fucked up it seems. But, it was crazy hot! The sex with Cassie was great! Cassie enjoyed it too. She O'd really hard as she screamed out "Oh my god, Michael!" Words that wouldn't be coming out of my wife's mouth during sex, due to the fact that my wife's not fucking me. Cassie and I cuddled and kissed gently as I held her for a while.

"Wow, Michael!" she said. "That was great! Can we do this again sometime?"

"Yeah, of course." I replied. "That was fun!"

"Hell yeah, it was!" Cassie shot right back. "Jen is one lucky woman!"

It's crazy ironic to have heard those words from Cassie said in that way. A nice ego boost for me, but also amusing for obvious reasons that only Jen, Brian, and I (and all of you guys) would understand. :-)

[OOAA]

Very hot situation and update!!!!!

I think it would be very exciting if Cassie knew more about the whole situation/arrangement

[poppag]

Hi excited. Looks like you have a lot going on. Looking forward to the next update. Now that Cassie is in the mix. Are you still fooling around with Jen and Brian? Threesomes and/or alone. Enquiring minds want to know

[Lensman2000]

Hmmm. Any chance Brian could fuck Cassie? Do you think Jen would be willing to share him?

[viking53]

Hmmm. Any chance Brian could fuck Cassie? Do you think Jen would be willing to share him?

The reason Jen threw Cassie at Matthew was specifically because she didn't want Cassie having anything to do with Brian. Cassie clearly showed an interest but Jen was adamant about not sharing.

[nyjints2004]

That was a great update
I'm also kind of jealous of your relationship with Jen. I wish mine was more like yours.

[rs480]

Ooh, I see WHERE this thread is. :-)
Sorry Michael but Jen isn't going to fuck you/allow you to fuck her anymore.
It's nice you have Cassie right now!
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Time will tell if my prediction is correct (kept inside my head for the time being). Or is it?
Also, look at my signature. ;-)

[OOAA]

Dear Michael,

Almost in July already ;-) any new talk/experience/situation that wanna share with us?

Best regards!

[excitedcuckold]

Thank you to all of you who've checked up on me! I do have an update. But, it's a trouble in paradise sort of update (sorry to say).

I did fuck Cassie again between my last post and now. I thought about Brian and Jen again while fucking Cassie though.

I've also had two threesomes with Brian and Jen since my last post. As usual, I didn't get to fuck Jen (for those of you who haven't been following along from the beginning, my best friend Brian took my place in bed and my wife Jen no longer fucks me while Brian is living with us).

Anyhow, even though things seemed mostly fine on the surface, Jen had also seemed kind of distant lately. She and I finally had some alone time yesterday. I was hoping to fool around, but that's not what ended up happening. Jen and I were making out on the couch, but we were still in our clothes. I started feeling on her, but she stopped me.

"Hold on," she said. "There's something on my mind."

"Is something the matter?" I asked. "You've seemed distant lately."

"I don't even know how to say this without sounding stupid," Jen replied.

"Just say what's on your mind, darling" I assured her.

"It's Cassie," Jen admitted. "I'm not blaming you. I know I said it was okay for you and Cassie to have sex and I even encouraged you to do it. But, now that it's happening, I've been feeling jealous. Not just a little jealous, Michael. But, way the fuck jealous! And it's making me feel like our relationship is having problems, even though I know technically you're not doing anything wrong."

"Do you want me to stop seeing Cassie?" I asked.

"It's not that simple," Jen replied.

"Why not?" I asked.

"Because it's not really about Cassie. It could have been any other woman and I'd still be feeling this way. Besides, Cassie is planning on getting back together with her boyfriend soon. She's just putting it off temporarily, because she wants to get in a few more fucks with you first. So, it's going to be over between you and Cassie soon anyways. But, then what?" Jen looked sad as she said all of this to me.

"What do you mean?" I asked her. "Do you want me to promise not to fuck any other women while you and Brian are exclusive? Is that what you want? Because, we already had that kind of arrangement going and it was working fine for me. I don't need to fuck other women, babe."

"I know," Jen answered. "And I fucked it up by suggesting that you and Cassie should start hooking up. I thought it would ease up my guilt about everything that's happened. I had the perfect sex life, but I felt guilty about it. Even though you said you were okay with it and were even turned-on by it, I felt guilty and so I wanted to try to be fair to you. I thought that you hooking up with Cassie would make it fair and would make me feel better. But, it just made me feel worse. And then I felt even worse when I realized that no matter how jealous I felt about Cassie, I still didn't want to fuck you and I only wanted you as my backup plan! I want you to be faithful to me even though I'm not fucking you, even though I have zero interest in fucking you! And that's really fucked up and it makes me feel guilty even though it's what I really want and even though it turns me on thinking about it. And that's another thing I realized. This is more than just about me fucking Brian! Throwing it in your face turns me on! Being a cruel, cock-teasing bitch toward you turns me on, Michael! Bragging about friend-zoning you and keeping you in the sidelines while I fuck your best friend turns me on! Telling you how much better Brian is in bed than you and how much less sexually you are than Brian turns me on!" Jen was speaking very sincerely and very intensely, but with obvious guilt and sadness.

"But, that stuff turns me on too!" I said reassuringly.

"But, I feel like I'm going too far." Jen continued. "I know you told me that you like being teased and dominated. But, you also said that you don't like being humiliated. I look at our situation and it's hard to think that I haven't crossed the line. It's unfair to you!" Jen was crying.

"But, you haven't gone too far! It's not humiliation in my book." I responded.

"How can it not be?" Jen asked. "What do you consider humiliation then?"

"I don't know exactly where the line is. I guess if our marriage was no longer important to you. If we stopped treating each other nicely. I mean in general. Sex is different. Obviously I don't mind you being a 'cruel, cock teasing bitch' toward me when it comes to sex. Those are your words, by the way. I don't think you're a bitch and I'd never call you something like that"

"You'd better not," Jen giggled through her tears.

"Maybe humiliation is if you start acting like you've lost respect for me?" I continued, not really sure how to explain it.

"How can even you say that?" Jen asked abruptly.

"Say what?" I replied.

"That you don't want me to start acting like I've lost respect for you? I've totally been acting that way and you know it! When it comes to sex, I mean. We're nice to each other in all other ways. At least I hope you feel that way. But, when it comes to sex, I haven't been nice to you in quite a while. For months I've totally been acting like I've lost respect for you as my sex partner! So tell me, are you turned on by that or aren't you?" Jen demanded.

"I hadn't thought of it that way, I suppose." I answered. "Are you saying that you've definitely lost respect for me when it comes to sex?"

"Of course I have, Michael!" Jen said bluntly. "I've friend-zoned you, kicked you out of our bedroom, and replaced you sexually with your best friend! I gave you a single mercy fuck on our wedding night and then Brian has fucked me exclusively since then. How can you possibly think I respect you sexually?"

"Wow," was all I could say.

"See, you're mad at the truth!" Jen said with a sigh. "Do you understand why I feel guilty about everything? I don't want to hurt you or to be unfair to you, but that's exactly what I'm doing."

"No, wait!" I said urgently. "I'm just trying to soak in what you're saying. You're just talking about losing respect for me as far as sex goes?"

"Have I shown you any less respect in any other area of our life?" Jen asked. "When I say I don't respect you sexually, of course I'm just talking about sex, baby! The thing is, I feel like there's different kinds of respect. If I needed a medical opinion, I'd have more respect for my doctor's opinion than yours. Does that mean I don't respect you at all? If I owned a car and needed it fixed, I'd respect a mechanic over a doctor. And I'd respect a good mechanic over a poor mechanic when it came to cars, even if I knew and liked the poor mechanic and respected him overall as a person. Do you get it? It's not all or nothing, Michael. I obviously respect you as a person and as my husband and as my best friend. I love you and trust you and rely on you. I do respect you overall! I just don't respect you sexually."

"When did you start losing respect for me sexually?" I asked.

"I don't want to upset you," said Jen and started to shut down.

"Please don't shut down." I pleaded gently. "I'm not upset. I just want to understand. When did you start losing respect for me sexually?"

"Ever since that first wrestling match," Jen admitted, as she looked down, not making eye contact. "Brian had you pinned on the floor. He already won a blow job from me, but then he grabbed your balls in his hand and squeezed. I knew it was just a game, but it was way more than I expected! Brian took it to that next level and I was so fucking wet over it! He had your manhood gripped in his large hand, showing off for me that he was the better, stronger man! He was humiliating you in front of me, crushing your balls smugly and laughing about it as he looked over at me for approval. And you just laid there and took it and accepted defeat. You agreed to let your best friend fuck me. And he fucked me better that night than you'd ever fucked me the whole time we've been together. And you just watched it happen. It was like you were accepting your place as the lesser man. It felt so natural for me to see you that way. Brian won me fair and square. I was being fucked by the better man. So yeah, it was that very first night that I started to lose respect for you sexually. And I just lost more and more respect for you sexually as time went on, until I stopped respecting you sexually altogether. And here I am feeling guilty about it, even though replacing you with Brian has been the best sex of my life. It's not just about fucking Brian though. I'm turned on by treating you like less than a man sexually and I want to keep doing it! I want you all to myself so I can throw it in your face how much better Brian is in bed than you. I want permission to feel okay about losing respect for you sexually. I want permission to be cruel to you sexually."

Jen was still looking toward the floor. I gently lifted her chin with my hand and smiled.

"It's okay," I said. "I give you permission."

Jen smiled through her tears. "I need to give myself permission, Michael. You telling me it's okay helps, but how can this really be what you want. I know it's what I want. But, how can you possibly want this too?"

"Because, I'm a cuckold," I answered.

"What the fuck is that?" Jen asked, confused.

"It's a kink. Some guys like this kind of thing. They're called cuckolds. I've discovered that I'm that kind of guy. I'm a cuckold."

"So all cuckolds are into what you're into?" Jen asked.

"No," I answered. "The word started out meaning a guy whose wife cheats on him. But, the word now usually refers to a fetish where a husband and wife are turned on by the wife fucking other guys. Some cuckolds are into the kind of thing we're doing. Some are less extreme. Some are more extreme."

"More extreme than us?" Jen giggled, her tears drying up.

"Sometimes," I replied. "But, yeah, we are kind of extreme." I joked. "Seriously though, do you want me stop seeing Cassie? And then you, me, and Brian can just go back to what we've been doing?"

"No. I'd rather the whole Cassie thing just goes away on it's own when Cassie and her boyfriend officially get back together. In the meanwhile, I want to keep feeling jealous for now."

"Seriously?" I asked, shocked.

"Yeah," Jen replied. "It's giving me a better appreciation for how awesome you are that you've been supportive of me replacing you in bed with Brian. It's also giving me a better appreciation for what I want from you sexually. I guess I want you to be a cuckold, now that I know the word for it. I need some time to think about all of this some more though and let it all soak in, Michael. It really is pretty fucking twisted what we're into!"

"Yeah, it is." I agreed.

"Speaking of which," Jen continued. "What else should I be doing as a... cuckolder? Is that the word?"

"I think cuckoldress is the word," I replied. "Part of what makes all of this so hot for me is the initiative that you've taken. Knowing that all of this is what you really want and knowing that it's all your idea makes it way hotter! It's much better than anything I could have come up on my own with and spoon-fed to you. Plus, it wouldn't be that exciting if you were just following my lead. I like my cuckoldress taking the lead. You're right that it's twisted, but it's been amazing for me too! If anything, just keep giving me attention. Keep reminding me and throwing it in my face how much better Brian is sexually than I am. Try to give yourself permission to feel okay about losing respect for me sexually. Try to embrace it and remind me of it often! Show off for me how great the sex with Brian is! Include me in your sex life in the way that it turns you on - with me as the lesser man to Brian, with me as your backup plan who you don't want to fuck so long as you have Brian. Be proud that you've completely given yourself sexually to the better man; to the hotter, stronger guy with the bigger cock, who won you all those months ago in a wrestling match where he dominated me and crushed my manhood just to show off for you."

So, needless to say I was hard as a rock when I said all of this to Jen. But, it is what it is. I meant it when I said it, even though it's scary to read back what actually came out of my mouth.

Jen and I ended up not fooling around yesterday after our talk and instead went out on a husband and wife date. It was fun. We had dinner and, afterward, I may have bought Jen some more lingerie to wear for Brian. Jen and I ended up agreeing that we'd still do the occasional threesome for now, but that Jen would have some time to think through everything we talked about before she and I got naked alone together again. Jen said that in the meanwhile she'll think of how best to cuckold me. She even said that she might come up with some more games, because it turns out that she misses the games that we used to play! Jen still insisted that I keep seeing Cassie for now, especially since Jen is expecting Cassie to get back together with her boyfriend any day now, at which point other women will be off limits to me so that my wife can keep me to herself, in the friend-zone that she's put me in while she exclusively fucks my best friend! This shit is fucking crazy!

[norbertrichard]

Reading your last post, it is quite evadent , that sex with your wife is never gonna happen, regardless of Brian, or whoever. If you took offense at what Jen told you, and asked for a divorce, you'd probably make her a verry happy woman. She is probably giving you that "friend" bullshit line, cause she doesn't want to hurt you anymore, that she already has. Sometimes you seem to see the writting on the wall, through the haze, but most of the time you talk yourself out of the realization of the facts. DO yourself a favor, anb wake up, before its to late.

[Zona]

Anything I'd say at this point would probably get me banned by the moderators, so I'll only say once again that because this thread is in the library where fiction is allowed, I can only hope that is the reason it is here.

[OOAA]

AMAZING talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really interesting and exciting chapter in the story!!!

It surely seems you two are much more connected now

Enjoy every bit of the amazing experience you are living!

Best regards

[viking53]

Hi Michael and thanks for the update.

Unfortunately, this was what I was trying to warn you about. You, taking up the opportunity with Cassie and, even more so, having sex with her has clearly pushed Jen to evaluate where she wants to go with this in relation to you. You have definitely reached a crossroads now and I think you have to think carefully about your future. Jen has clearly expressed that she doesn't want sex with you. You are not the fallback person for her when Brian leaves in August. She is going to start looking for a replacement for Brian and if she needs a fallback person, she will probably look for that guy at College. There will be plenty of opportunities there.

You need to think about where both of you want to go with this. Are you prepared for a long-term cuckold relationship in which you are denied sex completely? You have clearly shown that you have a very good and open communication between the two of you and you need to keep this going as active and open as it has been up till now. After your recent talk, Jen is going to start researching what a cuckold relationship is all about and how to further develop it. My guess is she is very soon going to find out about chastity and pegging. Given her experience of what happened with Cassie, I think these areas will clearly be of interest to her. Are you prepared to go down those paths?

You might like to point Jen in the right direction from your perspective, identifying a few sites that explain a cuckold relationship from the female perspective in ways that you would be prepared to accept.

Thank you for continuing to tell us how this develops and I hope it continues in the way both of you want.

[wingman]

Mike
I see this as a great development. U communicated and have clarity on where u stand. I would suggest you ask her if she loves you, tell her you need to hear that often! Ask her if she wants to remain married, or if the lack of sexual respect is a deal killer (she needs clarity in her own mind, which is why u need to ask her). ask her if she will "make love" to you if u feel like u guys need to reconnect. It won't be sex, it won't have mind blowing orgasm expectations, it will simply be two people who love each other reestablishing a marital bond ( after all you'll need that type of reconnection to have kids down the road).

So many couples can't communicate that way... And the communication is the core of your marriage.

I would ask her one other question.... Sexually... has she truly "lost respect" for you or did she discover she has a domination fetish (and she feels comfortable enough with u to make u the focus of that fetish)?

Perhaps she is confusing the feeling from a fetish she does not understand with more traditional feelings she can easily grasp.

[poppag]

Excited.
Thank you for the update. It is greatly appreciated that you keep coming back and sharing your adventure with us. I hope that by saying “trouble in paradise” that things have not turned sour between you and Jen. From what follows it sounds like the “status quo” wasn’t all it was cracked up to be for Jen, or as you thought and relayed to us. It seems while on the outside everything was going great, Jen had a lot of inner turmoil going on and wasn’t able to share it with you. It’s possible that Cassie coming into the picture was a good thing. Think about it, if Cassie and you don’t get together, then Jen continues to stew about what she’s feeling. No communication, continued guilt and feelings of disrespect flowing over from the sexual relationship you, Jen and Brian have, to disrespecting you in other areas of yours and hers live’s.

Look at it as a positive, and I think you have. The communication channel has been reopened and the only thing that can come from that is good. An example, right after the wedding, Jen and you spoke and Jen said, I don’t want to play games anymore, I want to enjoy my prize. I think she has enjoyed her prize of Brian being her exclusive sexual partner, but she misses the adventure/games that it took to get her prize. All of the fun it was for her to direct you and Brian to wrestle for her amusement and favor. For Brian showing off for her to win her favor. For you submitting to anything she asked of you, for her favor.

I think this new beginning could be as exciting or possibly more so than the adventure has been so far. It seems to me that you are into these new possibilities, even after she said all these things to you, and didn’t fool around naked with you, What did you do? You bought her some new lingerie to wear for Brian.

One final thought for tonight, If you could continue to fuck around with Cassie or any other woman with no strings attached and no ramifications from Jen. Or. living with Jen, even if it means she doesn’t want to have sex with you, but continues to dominate and tease and deny you?
Look forward to your next update

[hwc]

even though replacing you with Brian has been the best sex of my life. It's not just about fucking Brian though. I'm turned on by treating you like less than a man sexually and I want to keep doing it! I want you all to myself so I can throw it in your face how much better Brian is in bed than you. I want permission to feel okay about losing respect for you sexually. I want permission to be cruel to you sexually."

You really are going to have to use your imagination, both yourself and your wife, coming up with situations and attitudes (from her towards you) that will achieve what she really wants.

One thing I think would be a really nasty and cruel game to try out, would be if you ask her to become less tolerant with you over everyday things, such as household chores, jobs around the house... her losing patience with you... her taking offense at things you have said, taking them the wrong way so that innocent comments, suggestions and requests from you cause annoyance and anger to her.

The net result of this real-play, would be an opening door for her to be cruel to you. She could ignore you for days, say mean things and at the very same time be all the more loving towards Brian and a shoulder to cry on. this would destabilise the status quo as exists as you being "her friend" and Brian being the lover/boyfriend, towards Brian being the lover/boyfriend and best friend - and you being relegated to an unwanted but barely tolerated house-mate.

Obviously, this would only be for a period of time that you are both comfortable with and not real. But the more real you make it - the better those feelings of cruelty on Jen's part can be explored. I can't imagine you would enjoy it, but perhaps Jen would really enjoy being so wholly cruel and then you could derive your consolation and pleasure from the knowledge that through your sacrifice, you have allowed Jen to push the envelope and explore feelings of cruelty far beyond the limits most loving husbands would ever allow.

*Bonus* If you told Jen this and she felt it went way beyond the pale of what she could allow herself to do to you - your willingness to submit yourself to it for her will not go unmissed. Isn't true love, after-all, about the sacrifices we make and hardships we suffer for those we truly love?

Personally speaking, It would be no sacrifice for me at all - the angst it caused, would be both bitter-sweet, delicious and rewarding.

[excitedcuckold]

AMAZING talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really interesting and exciting chapter in the story!!!

It surely seems you two are much more connected now

Enjoy every bit of the amazing experience you are living!

Best regards

Thank you for your support and for seeing the positive in all of this!

Hi Michael and thanks for the update.

Unfortunately, this was what I was trying to warn you about. You, taking up the opportunity with Cassie and, even more so, having sex with her has clearly pushed Jen to evaluate where she wants to go with this in relation to you. You have definitely reached a crossroads now and I think you have to think carefully about your future. Jen has clearly expressed that she doesn't want sex with you. You are not the fallback person for her when Brian leaves in August. She is going to start looking for a replacement for Brian and if she needs a fallback person, she will probably look for that guy at College. There will be plenty of opportunities there.

You're right that Jen doesn't want to have sex with me. But, that's not some new revelation. She's been clear since our wedding night that she wants to stay exclusive with Brian until he moves away. Jen hasn't said anything about wanting to have sex with other guys after Brian moves out though. As far as I know, I'm still her backup plan.

You need to think about where both of you want to go with this. Are you prepared for a long-term cuckold relationship in which you are denied sex completely? You have clearly shown that you have a very good and open communication between the two of you and you need to keep this going as active and open as it has been up till now. After your recent talk, Jen is going to start researching what a cuckold relationship is all about and how to further develop it. My guess is she is very soon going to find out about chastity and pegging. Given her experience of what happened with Cassie, I think these areas will clearly be of interest to her. Are you prepared to go down those paths?

You might like to point Jen in the right direction from your perspective, identifying a few sites that explain a cuckold relationship from the female perspective in ways that you would be prepared to accept.

I think you're reaching again. It's a big leap to assume that Jen is going to land on a pegging website and realize that she has a passion for it. I know my sex life is pretty much like a crazy fetish porno at this point. But, no matter how much of a sex psychic you think you are, you don't know how this porno (my messed up, but crazy hot sex life) is going to turn out. I don't even know. As tempting as it is to steer Jen toward a desired outcome, I've come to realize that I like the twisted, fucked-up surprises Jen has been throwing my way since all of this started. Hopefully I'll enjoy whatever surprise Jen might have in store for me after she gives more thought to this whole cuckold thing.

Thank you for continuing to tell us how this develops and I hope it continues in the way both of you want.

You're welcome. And thank you for being supportive and for giving me your honest take on things without rudeness or judgment (even when I'm being naive).

Mike
I see this as a great development. U communicated and have clarity on where u stand. I would suggest you ask her if she loves you, tell her you need to hear that often! Ask her if she wants to remain married, or if the lack of sexual respect is a deal killer (she needs clarity in her own mind, which is why u need to ask her). ask her if she will "make love" to you if u feel like u guys need to reconnect. It won't be sex, it won't have mind blowing orgasm expectations, it will simply be two people who love each other reestablishing a marital bond ( after all you'll need that type of reconnection to have kids down the road).

So many couples can't communicate that way... And the communication is the core of your marriage.

I would ask her one other question.... Sexually... has she truly "lost respect" for you or did she discover she has a domination fetish (and she feels comfortable enough with u to make u the focus of that fetish)?

Perhaps she is confusing the feeling from a fetish she does not understand with more traditional feelings she can easily grasp.

I'm not really up for confronting her like that. First off, she already tells me that she loves me. She says it like she means it and that's good enough for me. Second, she married me even though she'd already been fucking Brian for months and even though she had already lost sexual respect for me. Unless she says otherwise, I'd rather not feed Jen with negativity that encourages her to second guess her choice. She had it in her head that she wanted to be married to me but to exclusively fuck another man and so she decided to just go for it! That's really amazing of her! How many other women would have gone for it like that? Probably not very many. I'm proud of Jen. I'm glad to be able to give her what she wants. It turns me way the fuck on, wingman! So I'm not exactly a martyr here.

Which brings me to my third point - I don't want to ask Jen if she's willing to make love to me. She's already made it clear that she doesn't want to have sex with me. Even if she said yes, it would be because I put her on the spot and not because she actually wants to have sex with me. And it turns me on to have been sexually replaced so definitively like that! Every time I hear Jen tell me that she has zero interest in having sex with me and tells me how much better Brian is sexually than I am, I get turned on. I admit that part of me is kind of sad about it, but I'm also really happy about it at the same time. It's really hard to explain, even to guys on a cuckold forum I suppose. When Jen confessed to me on Monday evening how she started seeing me as a lesser man in relation to Brian from that very first night all those months ago (when I was pinned on the floor as Brian crushed my balls in front of Jen and then proceeded to fuck Jen in front of me), I was in heaven! I was hurt and sad too. But, a lot of my sadness was because Jen was having guilt and was crying when she made her confession to me on Monday. Beyond that though, it was heaven to realize that Jen has seen me in such a way this whole time and that she still married me anyways. It was heaven to realize that her sadness was not because she actually disliked seeing me in this way, but because she was enjoying it too much and felt guilty about it and about the possibility of being unfair to me. I've thought about it since my last post and I don't want to talk Jen out of the idea of her losing respect for me sexually. It's already happened and our sex life has been great as a result! Jen gets amazing sex from Brian and I get to be a denied cuckold. Losing respect for me sexually has resulted in Jen being turned on by being a cruel cock-tease toward me. Which is something I'm all about too!

But, there's the issue of what happens when Brian moves away. As far as I know, I'm still Jen's backup plan. What's it going to be like for her come late August? The man who she actually wants to fuck will be gone and her backup plan (me) is a guy who she doesn't respect sexually. I can see that being a problem. But, that's a bridge we'll have to cross when the time comes.

Excited.
Thank you for the update. It is greatly appreciated that you keep coming back and sharing your adventure with us. I hope that by saying “trouble in paradise” that things have not turned sour between you and Jen. From what follows it sounds like the “status quo” wasn’t all it was cracked up to be for Jen, or as you thought and relayed to us. It seems while on the outside everything was going great, Jen had a lot of inner turmoil going on and wasn’t able to share it with you. It’s possible that Cassie coming into the picture was a good thing. Think about it, if Cassie and you don’t get together, then Jen continues to stew about what she’s feeling. No communication, continued guilt and feelings of disrespect flowing over from the sexual relationship you, Jen and Brian have, to disrespecting you in other areas of yours and hers live’s.

Look at it as a positive, and I think you have. The communication channel has been reopened and the only thing that can come from that is good. An example, right after the wedding, Jen and you spoke and Jen said, I don’t want to play games anymore, I want to enjoy my prize. I think she has enjoyed her prize of Brian being her exclusive sexual partner, but she misses the adventure/games that it took to get her prize. All of the fun it was for her to direct you and Brian to wrestle for her amusement and favor. For Brian showing off for her to win her favor. For you submitting to anything she asked of you, for her favor.

I think this new beginning could be as exciting or possibly more so than the adventure has been so far. It seems to me that you are into these new possibilities, even after she said all these things to you, and didn’t fool around naked with you, What did you do? You bought her some new lingerie to wear for Brian.

One final thought for tonight, If you could continue to fuck around with Cassie or any other woman with no strings attached and no ramifications from Jen. Or. living with Jen, even if it means she doesn’t want to have sex with you, but continues to dominate and tease and deny you?
Look forward to your next update

Thank you for your encouragement! I really like the positive spin you put on all of it!

As to your question, I think we both know what the answer is. I like fucking Cassie. But, I'm also eager to let Jen turn me into even more of a cuckold. I'm much more into being Jen's cuckold than the no-strings sex I've been having with Cassie. Plus, when I'm with Cassie, I think about Brian and Jen in my head.

Speaking of which, I fucked Cassie again last night. Jen was right. Cassie told me she's planning on getting back together with her boyfriend. Cassie and I agreed we'd hook up one last time next week. Cassie actually told me that I'm the best lay she's ever had! Ha! I bet Jen would either be amused or annoyed if she heard that! I'll keep it to myself though. One last romp with Cassie next week and then I go back to being Jen's full-time cuckold! By then, hopefully Jen will have figured how she wants to go about cuckolding me from here on in now that all her thoughts and feelings are out in the open between us.

[wingman]

Mike
I wasn't trying to be negative with my comments, so sorry if I came across that way!!! Please know I think you have a great lady there.. a real keeper!! I added a few more comments in a PM.

Enjoy!!!!!