It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[william70]

I'm assuming "an hr. apart" means the distance between where you live and the city. Is that correct? If so, will you cave if Lana begs to see spmn while your there?

[w770]

I'm assuming "an hr. apart" means the distance between where you live and the city. Is that correct? If so, will you cave if Lana begs to see spmn while your there?

Yeah we live about an hour away from the city. 45 min with no traffic.

Would I cave if she begged...... I'd like to say no, but it's hard to refuse her. Ugh.

[johnstevens555]

I'm assuming "an hr. apart" means the distance between where you live and the city. Is that correct? If so, will you cave if Lana begs to see spmn while your there?

Yeah we live about an hour away from the city. 45 min with no traffic.

Would I cave if she begged...... I'd like to say no, but it's hard to refuse her. Ugh.

From reading about you guys for the past few days I bet she wouldn’t need to beg. She would just tell you that she just wants to do it for you and you would cave.

[william70]

How many beds in your hotel room?

[slowsteady]

w770 You wrote: "Update: We've booked the hotel for the next week. She's mulling over the idea of going over to his place to have sex so that Lana can tease me on the drive up to the city and then we can make love once we get to the hotel with his cum inside of her. Classic win win win. I realize this seems contradictory to what I just said, but what I meant was taking precautions and sticking to a plan when it comes to the full openness of the cucking aspect where I'm watching."


Yes, it's contradictory - this is what I'm referring to in my caution of the slippery slope. You write that you are a great planner and you have rules, then those plans and rules change almost immediately. This was originally supposed to be the weekend she became a hotwife and that plan went to hell. You planned to have a week in NY to get your act together and now Lana is going to get fucked before you go. I can only assume you know where this is heading - good luck and enjoy - we will.

I know what you're saying is true, so it's part of the reason we've opted to put some distance between us and him, so that it's not a practical scenario in which they're together.

Kind of sounds like getting one more fix on the way to rehab. Lol. I’m pretty sure you guys have broken or shortened every timeframe or slowdown that you’ve set.

The really frightening thing is not that the gentleman believes our wisdom, experience and objectivity is of no real concern because HE knows his wife and we don't.

Nope! The scary reality is that he is STILL seriously considering fathering a child with her.

I see no humor here.

[w770]

w770 You wrote: "Update: We've booked the hotel for the next week. She's mulling over the idea of going over to his place to have sex so that Lana can tease me on the drive up to the city and then we can make love once we get to the hotel with his cum inside of her. Classic win win win. I realize this seems contradictory to what I just said, but what I meant was taking precautions and sticking to a plan when it comes to the full openness of the cucking aspect where I'm watching."


Yes, it's contradictory - this is what I'm referring to in my caution of the slippery slope. You write that you are a great planner and you have rules, then those plans and rules change almost immediately. This was originally supposed to be the weekend she became a hotwife and that plan went to hell. You planned to have a week in NY to get your act together and now Lana is going to get fucked before you go. I can only assume you know where this is heading - good luck and enjoy - we will.

I know what you're saying is true, so it's part of the reason we've opted to put some distance between us and him, so that it's not a practical scenario in which they're together.

Kind of sounds like getting one more fix on the way to rehab. Lol. I’m pretty sure you guys have broken or shortened every timeframe or slowdown that you’ve set.

The really frightening thing is not that the gentleman believes our wisdom, experience and objectivity is of no real concern because HE knows his wife and we don't.

Nope! The scary reality is that he is STILL seriously considering fathering a child with her.

I see no humor here.

I think there may have been something lost in translation or in the various shortcomings of communicating over text, but I've never undervalued the merit of anyone's posts here. In fact it's quite the opposite. I've said that the advice given here has objectivity and I have the personal knowledge of my relationship, which makes for a good convergence of ideas to base decision making.

I do sense your concern and I'm well aware of the other red flags that several people have noted. Lana and I have discussed some of these points and are doing our best to communicate, which we think helps keep us on the same page, as often as that page may change.

As always, I appreciate the input and give all input and its sentiment some consideration.

[w770]

How many beds in your hotel room?

One king.

I'm assuming "an hr. apart" means the distance between where you live and the city. Is that correct? If so, will you cave if Lana begs to see spmn while your there?

Yeah we live about an hour away from the city. 45 min with no traffic.

Would I cave if she begged...... I'd like to say no, but it's hard to refuse her. Ugh.

From reading about you guys for the past few days I bet she wouldn’t need to beg. She would just tell you that she just wants to do it for you and you would cave.

Sexist puppeteer ever.

[johnstevens555]

Nope! The scary reality is that he is STILL seriously considering fathering a child with her.

That is a little harsh at this point, don’t you think?

[hubudig2]

I think you're all being a little harsh.
Any potential humiliation from Superman will be a walk in the park after this

[FadermanL20]

Pleasure. Fun.

I'm guessing those are a couple of good reasons to have sex, right? I mean, besides the procreation thing.

W770, I suggest that you think back to the reasons that you wanted this in the first place. Was it possibly for her (and your) fun and pleasure?

You've married a lovely, (if she looks the way you say she does) wonderful, creature. You want her to have the best of everything. Isn't this one of those things?

If I need to get my car fixed, and I don't have the tools or the facilities to fix it, I hire a pro. A couple of mechanics that I know, they have their own garage, will let me assist with the repairs, while they tackle the stuff I can't do.

Women can get all sorts of enhancements, but us men-We are stuck with the cock God gave us. No surgery, pill or therapy is going to give you a bigger dick. But by golly, you sure can help, facilitate, and support your love while you are giving her the ultimate luxury.

SM, OTOH, hit the cock lottery. remember that. He's done the work buffing out his body, but he was BORN with the huge dick.

Now, the humiliation thing-If you are into that, by all means. You're an adult. But from what I read, that was for their (mostly his) ego gratification. Not yours.

If it isn't serving the intended purpose, then it's harming it. But I wonder how this would have turned out if SM knew that she was doing this with your permission from the very beginning. Would he have possibly been more respectful? Or was this coming from Lana?

I used to work with a lady who was a swinger (some great stories about that!), she was trying to recruit me. If I'd been smarter, I'd have introduced her to my wife. Anyway, I told her that I probably wouldn't make a very good swinger.

Why?, she asked

Because I'm not very god looking

So? most of our members are pretty average

I'm only a little above average size-wise

So?, only a few of our men are above average. The average guys get laid plenty. It's more about your personality and how many times you can pop.

This is paraphrasing the conversation, but you get the drift.

This is way too long, and I'm just a baby member. But I'd suggest that you re-visit in your mind why YOU set out on this in the first place. I'd bet that a couple of the reasons are FUN and Pleasure.

Just my .02

[william70]

A fun bet.
Spmn comes to the city and you end up renting a room for your self.

[phoenix2020]

Nope! The scary reality is that he is STILL seriously considering fathering a child with her.

I see no humor here.

If you are referring to the going off the pill, that was fake. It was just an idea for them to fuck with Superman.

[w770]

Pleasure. Fun.

I'm guessing those are a couple of good reasons to have sex, right? I mean, besides the procreation thing.

W770, I suggest that you think back to the reasons that you wanted this in the first place. Was it possibly for her (and your) fun and pleasure?

You've married a lovely, (if she looks the way you say she does) wonderful, creature. You want her to have the best of everything. Isn't this one of those things?

If I need to get my car fixed, and I don't have the tools or the facilities to fix it, I hire a pro. A couple of mechanics that I know, they have their own garage, will let me assist with the repairs, while they tackle the stuff I can't do.

Women can get all sorts of enhancements, but us men-We are stuck with the cock God gave us. No surgery, pill or therapy is going to give you a bigger dick. But by golly, you sure can help, facilitate, and support your love while you are giving her the ultimate luxury.

SM, OTOH, hit the cock lottery. remember that. He's done the work buffing out his body, but he was BORN with the huge dick.

Now, the humiliation thing-If you are into that, by all means. You're an adult. But from what I read, that was for their (mostly his) ego gratification. Not yours.

If it isn't serving the intended purpose, then it's harming it. But I wonder how this would have turned out if SM knew that she was doing this with your permission from the very beginning. Would he have possibly been more respectful? Or was this coming from Lana?

I used to work with a lady who was a swinger (some great stories about that!), she was trying to recruit me. If I'd been smarter, I'd have introduced her to my wife. Anyway, I told her that I probably wouldn't make a very good swinger.

Why?, she asked

Because I'm not very god looking

So? most of our members are pretty average

I'm only a little above average size-wise

So?, only a few of our men are above average. The average guys get laid plenty. It's more about your personality and how many times you can pop.

This is paraphrasing the conversation, but you get the drift.

This is way too long, and I'm just a baby member. But I'd suggest that you re-visit in your mind why YOU set out on this in the first place. I'd bet that a couple of the reasons are FUN and Pleasure.

Just my .02

Her and I both get pleasure out of the experience as she's getting a giant cock to play with along with a loving husband to come home to, while physically, I get to make love to her with her cum in her pussy while in a deeper way, it turns me on hearing about how she's being taken to orgasmic levels like never before.

If I had to guess, Superman would have enjoyed the experience as much as he is now if he was fully informed of my knowledge since the onset, as long as he was getting to be inside Lana. Meanwhile the humiliation is a fun byproduct of the experience as it's not something we really planned on but have nonetheless enjoyed.

A fun bet.
Spmn comes to the city and you end up renting a room for your self.

Hypothetically, it's hot to think about, right? Sex in a hotel bed always feels great for some reason.

Scheduling didn't really allow for Lana and Superman to end up having sex before we left for the city. No matter, we had a great night, really reconnected doing our favorite things and the had sweet love making sex. More of the same planned for today and until next Thursday when we come back home and reassess how we want to move forward with Superman. She reiterated to me last night that she would be fine if it all ended now with him but I told her not to make any decisions until we've had a little more time to reflect.

[whenwillshe]

You seem to be in a very good place between your ears and between the sheets

[FadermanL20]

My wife has a couple of questions:

Does he bump her cervix while they're fucking? is it pleasurable? (it isn't for my wife)

Has she experienced any lubrication problems ie. "fucked her dry"? (my wife has experienced this)

Has she experienced the out of control quivering and jerking on the back side of her orgasms? (my wife has)

Has he made her squirt? (my wife has, but we're working on making a standard part of sessions)

Does she honestly think she'll be able to deprive herself of big cock now that she's had a serious taste? My wife doesn't think she'll ever be able to go back. (my wife can't handle too big because of the cervix thing.)

Thanks!

[takemoment]

If it does proceed to sex, don't be surprised if you have some mixed emotions about it, but in the end you will be erotically happy. Should try to capture their fucking if you cannot be there to witness it. Watching your wife being naked and fucked by another guy is so intense

[w770]

My wife has a couple of questions:

Does he bump her cervix while they're fucking? is it pleasurable? (it isn't for my wife)

Has she experienced any lubrication problems ie. "fucked her dry"? (my wife has experienced this)

Has she experienced the out of control quivering and jerking on the back side of her orgasms? (my wife has)

Has he made her squirt? (my wife has, but we're working on making a standard part of sessions)

Does she honestly think she'll be able to deprive herself of big cock now that she's had a serious taste? My wife doesn't think she'll ever be able to go back. (my wife can't handle too big because of the cervix thing.)

Thanks!

I asked Lana and she says:

No, Superman stops right before he bumps her cervix. As much as he just wants to get off, he really does want the experience to be pleasurable for her as well it seems.

She says that foreplay with him gets her really wet so there hasn't been issues with lubrication. In fact, a lot of times that she's worshipping his cock, she'll start teasing her clit, so by the time he ready to fuck, she's wet.

The orgasms he's given her have all caused her to completely lose her grasp of reality as her body shakes uncontrollably. She says these orgasms seem to last for minutes at a time, and every thrust seems to amplify the intensity. She also says that there are clitoral orgasms, which I give her with oral, and then there are full body orgasms that she gets with him as she cums on his cock which are much more powerful and tend to last much longer.

She's never squirted, with Superman or anyone. She claims that she doesn't even know if her body is capable of it.

If it does proceed to sex, don't be surprised if you have some mixed emotions about it, but in the end you will be erotically happy. Should try to capture their fucking if you cannot be there to witness it. Watching your wife being naked and fucked by another guy is so intense

We haven't completely ruled it out if things go that far. As of now, I think we're settling into the idea of me listening in from the living room the first few times until I think I can handle actually watching them. We have a few weeks to figure out the possibilities of recording them for future erotic play.

[FadermanL20]

I mis-stated the question, we didn't mean that he starts fucking her while she's dry. No man would ever want to do that. Rather, we meant, has she ever lost the ability to continue to produce lubrication during the act? My swinger friend told me that was why she loved having multiple men at the swing club-as she got older, she was not produce as much lubrication, but if you're taking those cocks and they're cumming inside her, that problem gets negated. Cum makes a great lube.

Are you guys aware of the anterior/posterior fornyx? Supposedly the cervix retracts and the area behind the cervix is very sensitive-but only men with lots of length can reach it. We figured this was why she desired the extra length. We've experimented with this but it hasn't produced any results.

As for the squirting-she's capable. She just needs the right stimulation.

Another point-SM, in a way, has cucked you twice. In his mind, he got your wife to cheat on you.

Then, he got her caught. Now you're willing to continue, now that you know all about it. He's going to be fucking her senseless with your full knowledge and consent-and, if if We're reading your posts correctly, with you as a witness. Totally hot, but a huge ego boost for him.

We are both getting to an age where we can not do this stuff any more, so forgive us if we're living vicariously through you. But it's been a great ride and we wish you all the best.

We hope to continue reading about your journey. Thanks again!

[w770]

I mis-stated the question, we didn't mean that he starts fucking her while she's dry. No man would ever want to do that. Rather, we meant, has she ever lost the ability to continue to produce lubrication during the act? My swinger friend told me that was why she loved having multiple men at the swing club-as she got older, she was not produce as much lubrication, but if you're taking those cocks and they're cumming inside her, that problem gets negated. Cum makes a great lube.

Are you guys aware of the anterior/posterior fornyx? Supposedly the cervix retracts and the area behind the cervix is very sensitive-but only men with lots of length can reach it. We figured this was why she desired the extra length. We've experimented with this but it hasn't produced any results.

As for the squirting-she's capable. She just needs the right stimulation.

Another point-SM, in a way, has cucked you twice. In his mind, he got your wife to cheat on you.

Then, he got her caught. Now you're willing to continue, now that you know all about it. He's going to be fucking her senseless with your full knowledge and consent-and, if if We're reading your posts correctly, with you as a witness. Totally hot, but a huge ego boost for him.

We are both getting to an age where we can not do this stuff any more, so forgive us if we're living vicariously through you. But it's been a great ride and we wish you all the best.

We hope to continue reading about your journey. Thanks again!

Oh I gotcha - well as far as her ability to "get wet" her and I used lube for a while, however, with Superman, it's been entirely unnecessary. And of the times where we've made love with his cum inside of her, it really has been the most unbelievable form of lubrication we've ever had.

I've never heard of the anterior/posterior fornyx, but it would make sense if this were the case. Lana tells me that it's not necessarily the length, but the girth and thickness of Superman's cock that makes her lose control, and from the times that I've listened to them fucking, it sounds like it only takes 2 minutes at the very most before she's screaming his name as he's bringing her to orgasm.

It does make a lot of sense that he thinks he's cucked me twice, but I only look at it from the first time, as it went against our plan and I really had no idea it was taking place. And if he gets an ego boost from me watching them on our bed, that's great. There have been some posts in this thread where certain approaches have been suggested as it sets the stage for Superman to respect me more, but honestly, I don't really care if he respects me or not, if his opinion of me is that of being a loving husband willing to share his wife or that of a submissive cuck who has no say in the matter. Him and I will never cross paths in a professional setting, nor will we ever share a circle of friends, so having his respect is of no concern to me. And although it may sound crass, he really is nothing more to us than (as some posts have said) a giant live action handsome and muscular dildo.

We just had brunch (with my cum inside of her pussy at the time) and we're planning on just doing cute couple things today around the city with the dogs. We've discussed Superman a bit, but on the whole, we're really just focused on each other. He's even texted her pictures of himself half naked in bed, but she's ignored him. The sex between us hasn't even really involved much talk of him either and has been rather romantic. I know it's likely that we will be moving into the next step when we get home next week and in short order, I'll be watching them fuck on our bed, but it's nice to enjoy the moment now. It also suggests to me that after he leaves back to California, it won't be hard for us to go back to being a normal boring couple. But of course, you never know.

[hubudig2]

Are you guys aware of the anterior/posterior fornyx? Supposedly the cervix retracts and the area behind the cervix is very sensitive-but only men with lots of length can reach it. We figured this was why she desired the extra length. We've experimented with this but it hasn't produced any results.

When I got together with my wife, she would jump through the headboard everytime I touched her cervix.
I had to use half my length for at least a year or so which was fine, she cums plenty on just the girth.
Over time she was able to get used to the cervix sensation and I was able to "bottom out" in her without her being uncomfortable.
Now she actually enjoys it, I can "massage" her cervix area with barely any movement/thrusting and make her cum repeatedly from it or I can pound away at it and she enjoys that too.
I couldn't tell you if that's the anterior/posterior fornyx or not but it's around the "bottoming out" area.
Maybe her cervix has learned to retract as you say? I don't know but she definitely loves length as well as girth now which for a long time she thought she never would.

[johnstevens555]

There have been some posts in this thread where certain approaches have been suggested as it sets the stage for Superman to respect me more, but honestly, I don't really care if he respects me or not, if his opinion of me is that of being a loving husband willing to share his wife or that of a submissive cuck who has no say in the matter.

Personally I don’t think it matters one bit whether or not superman respects you. I don’t think you really should give a shit. On the other hand, what does matter is letting your wife see him disrespect you. You obviously get to choose your own adventure and how you handle that will be a major part in deciding your path.

[w770]

There have been some posts in this thread where certain approaches have been suggested as it sets the stage for Superman to respect me more, but honestly, I don't really care if he respects me or not, if his opinion of me is that of being a loving husband willing to share his wife or that of a submissive cuck who has no say in the matter.

Personally I don’t think it matters one bit whether or not superman respects you. I don’t think you really should give a shit. On the other hand, what does matter is letting your wife see him disrespect you. You obviously get to choose your own adventure and how you handle that will be a major part in deciding your path.

Yeah that's a good point and the reason I think Lana and I set up the boundaries we did and why I was adamant about a hard stop at him ordering me to do anything for him.

There are so many angles to this life style and so much of it is subjective which is why I'm always trying to take in what everyone is saying. It's all very good information.

[hiki]

Are you still planning on proceeding with the going-off-the-pill ruse?

[w770]

Are you still planning on proceeding with the going-off-the-pill ruse?

We're planning on not even bringing it up. It was really just to see his reaction, which when she told him, he basically gave a "how does this affect me" response. It will be interesting though if he starts asking her where to cum though. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why need needed confirmation that he was an asshole at that time but at least we know now.

[FadermanL20]

Are you guys aware of the anterior/posterior fornyx? Supposedly the cervix retracts and the area behind the cervix is very sensitive-but only men with lots of length can reach it. We figured this was why she desired the extra length. We've experimented with this but it hasn't produced any results.

When I got together with my wife, she would jump through the headboard everytime I touched her cervix.
I had to use half my length for at least a year or so which was fine, she cums plenty on just the girth.
Over time she was able to get used to the cervix sensation and I was able to "bottom out" in her without her being uncomfortable.
Now she actually enjoys it, I can "massage" her cervix area with barely any movement/thrusting and make her cum repeatedly from it or I can pound away at it and she enjoys that too.
I couldn't tell you if that's the anterior/posterior fornyx or not but it's around the "bottoming out" area.
Maybe her cervix has learned to retract as you say? I don't know but she definitely loves length as well as girth now which for a long time she thought she never would.

Yes. If she is lying on her back and you were to insert a finger or two and trace along the top part of her vagina, go back until just before her cervix, that's the anterior fornyx. It's supposed to be pretty pleasurable, every woman is different. My wife liked it, but it was too easy to hit her cervix by mistake-especially when she's moving around. (grin)

If you were to do the same for the bottom part of her vagina, it's a deeper channel, right? that's the posterior fornyx. That area, if properly stimulated is supposed to be EXTREMELY sensitive. I believe there are videos on this. I remember reading a paper on this once, but I can't cite the source, because it's been so long ago-but you should be able to search for it. My problem is that I could reach my wife's anterior and the cervix itself, but I'm not long enough to get beyond. A source of great frustration for me. We tried a dildo, but it's too stiff and wasn't pleasurable for her-I think it needs to be something as pliable as a cock to do the trick.