wife interested in other guy

[gordon921]

Hi Bi,

think long and hard about what you 'dress up' in, try and visualise from G point of view, what type of husband does she want, dressing up in ladies underwear basically means you are going down the sissy route and depending on how far it is pushed, G in future could just view you as a sister and not a man, plenty of posts on here about that.

Will possibly be shot down in flames, but think hard, who are you going to hopefully spend the rest of your life with G or C, so in 5 years time where will you be and what will G think of you.

Could be totally wrong, but...

Regards

[Bi+Gigh]

Hi Bi,

think long and hard about what you 'dress up' in, try and visualise from G point of view, what type of husband does she want, dressing up in ladies underwear basically means you are going down the sissy route and depending on how far it is pushed, G in future could just view you as a sister and not a man, plenty of posts on here about that.

Will possibly be shot down in flames, but think hard, who are you going to hopefully spend the rest of your life with G or C, so in 5 years time where will you be and what will G think of you.

Could be totally wrong, but...

Regards

Thanks for feedback, Gordon. Not sure if I can do it, but if I do, it's men's underwear that I'd be wearing.

[rascalnvixen]

Hi Bi,

think long and hard about what you 'dress up' in, try and visualise from G point of view, what type of husband does she want, dressing up in ladies underwear basically means you are going down the sissy route and depending on how far it is pushed, G in future could just view you as a sister and not a man, plenty of posts on here about that.

Will possibly be shot down in flames, but think hard, who are you going to hopefully spend the rest of your life with G or C, so in 5 years time where will you be and what will G think of you.

Could be totally wrong, but...

Regards

Gordon, I agree completely!!!! But it all depends on where Bi wants to be and what he wants to be. If he wears that stuff, I'm pretty sure G didn't want a sissy for a husband when she married him. Having Bi going bi is something she gets a thrill with but she still loves him apparently and even though she has Conor around, she still likes sex with Bi as a straight couple. Yeah, she's got some kink with her but I think she likes bi as a guy, not as a sissy wearing pink panties. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the 1st time!! Bi, have fun with Conor but don't let him get so dominant that G begins to see him as her primary and her preference as a mate. You have some serious choices to make as things progress!!

Rascal

[Bi+Gigh]

Hi Bi,

think long and hard about what you 'dress up' in, try and visualise from G point of view, what type of husband does she want, dressing up in ladies underwear basically means you are going down the sissy route and depending on how far it is pushed, G in future could just view you as a sister and not a man, plenty of posts on here about that.

Will possibly be shot down in flames, but think hard, who are you going to hopefully spend the rest of your life with G or C, so in 5 years time where will you be and what will G think of you.

Could be totally wrong, but...

Regards

Gordon, I agree completely!!!! But it all depends on where Bi wants to be and what he wants to be. If he wears that stuff, I'm pretty sure G didn't want a sissy for a husband when she married him. Having Bi going bi is something she gets a thrill with but she still loves him apparently and even though she has Conor around, she still likes sex with Bi as a straight couple. Yeah, she's got some kink with her but I think she likes bi as a guy, not as a sissy wearing pink panties. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the 1st time!! Bi, have fun with Conor but don't let him get so dominant that G begins to see him as her primary and her preference as a mate. You have some serious choices to make as things progress!!

Rascal

Always appreciate feedback, so thanks Rascal, but I need to defend myself this time.
Putting on a pair of red Calvin Klein men's underwear doesn't make me a sissy. I'm not heading towards becoming one either. It's not my comfort zone.
I'm not sure if anyone else has felt this, but I definitely feel more feminine at times in terms of wanting to please Conor sexually (it sure as hell worked last night). I'm not even sure if the feeling is of being feminine. But it's a long way from dressing or acting as a female.
As for the red men's underwear, I'd put that (or others I have) on to get G horny and wanting to have sex. It pretty much worked for her everytime and I know it got Conor horned up last night. We had multiple hot sessions last night and he didn't even have sex with G until this morning (she wasn't home most of the night).
And with me in a cage (it's back on) most of the time recently, or even before the cage, Conor is her primary sexual partner. It's also possible that Conor is her primary mate, I'm not really sure about that but I know I'm not going to fight it.
But I believe G and I are best friends and soul mates and I don't believe there is anything that would change that.
Just wanted to explain myself some. Thanks.

[Bi+Gigh]

So I was asked a question today through a PM with one of my great sources of advice on this topic. He asked who else knows about our open marriage and is there any chance of our parents finding out since we all live in the same city.
This is my answer and it's a pretty good update, as well.

My family is pretty unconventional sexually. My dad once walked in on me giving my younger brother a blow job when we were younger. All he said was I have a brother too so relax. So my point is while they might not fully approve, they would support G and I.
I know G's parents well having known them so long but I don't know how they would react. Her younger brother fucks anything that has a pulse so he wouldn't be an issue.
But more and more people are finding out. My little brother knows as I wrote about earlier and once he knew I needed to tell my older brother (his first question was asking if there was any chance at him "hitting it." And he's married).
But G's 2 friends know as a result of G fucking Griffin. We met with them and described our open marriage. They were actually mostly cool about it and want to meet Conor. I'm fine with that but I won't be a part of the meeting. That would be too weird for me.
Conor's roommate knows because Conor would disappear for 2-3 days to be with his girlfriend. After G's friends found out, Conor wanted to come clean with his roommate who is also a co-worker of both of them. Risky for sure.
And I had bad information about Saturday night. Conor told me they would be staying at his apartment but when I talked to G today she said she's not staying there. It would be too awkward and uncomfortable but they are meeting the roommate for drinks so he can see them together for the first time.

[gordon921]

Bi, lots revealed there, it's 10pm in the UK, I'm not even going to try and unpack and digest that info tonight. I'll respond tomorrow, as always I'll not be the common cheerleader as so many are on here, I'll give you an honest appraisal from my view point, then it's up to you to take it or leave it.
Also if I offended you with my ref to sissy, I apologise, was not accusing you of being one, just high lighting some of the issues going down the route some were suggesting. I have always and will continue to support you and G, I know you both have a relationship with C, but that is secondary to my current thinking. But enjoy.

[Bi+Gigh]

Bi, lots revealed there, it's 10pm in the UK, I'm not even going to try and unpack and digest that info tonight. I'll respond tomorrow, as always I'll not be the common cheerleader as so many are on here, I'll give you an honest appraisal from my view point, then it's up to you to take it or leave it.
Also if I offended you with my ref to sissy, I apologise, was not accusing you of being one, just high lighting some of the issues going down the route some were suggesting. I have always and will continue to support you and G, I know you both have a relationship with C, but that is secondary to my current thinking. But enjoy.

Always appreciate your honest feedback. I'm a big boy and can either accept or reject any input and I don't take any offense at anything that has been said/written. This is all pretty new to me and I believe if you're willing to take the chance of an open marriage, and a threesome in effect, you need to be willing to accept when the shit hits the fan, too.

[Chrislydi]

So presumably if Conor is G's prinary sexual partner and mate, then someday they might want to start a family and then for financial reasons get married. They may let you stay with them as G's 'special' friend until the kids come along and I think all will initially be happy with that. Maybe Conor might then become G:s soul mate as the father of their children as well as spending so much quality time with her 24/7. It might be a little unconventional while mummy's friend initially visits them so often, but it also might just work at least until they're bedded in with their family .

Chris

[gordon921]

So I was asked a question today through a PM with one of my great sources of advice on this topic. He asked who else knows about our open marriage and is there any chance of our parents finding out since we all live in the same city.
This is my answer and it's a pretty good update, as well.

My family is pretty unconventional sexually. My dad once walked in on me giving my younger brother a blow job when we were younger. All he said was I have a brother too so relax. So my point is while they might not fully approve, they would support G and I.
I know G's parents well having known them so long but I don't know how they would react. Her younger brother fucks anything that has a pulse so he wouldn't be an issue.
But more and more people are finding out. My little brother knows as I wrote about earlier and once he knew I needed to tell my older brother (his first question was asking if there was any chance at him "hitting it." And he's married).
But G's 2 friends know as a result of G fucking Griffin. We met with them and described our open marriage. They were actually mostly cool about it and want to meet Conor. I'm fine with that but I won't be a part of the meeting. That would be too weird for me.
Conor's roommate knows because Conor would disappear for 2-3 days to be with his girlfriend. After G's friends found out, Conor wanted to come clean with his roommate who is also a co-worker of both of them. Risky for sure.
And I had bad information about Saturday night. Conor told me they would be staying at his apartment but when I talked to G today she said she's not staying there. It would be too awkward and uncomfortable but they are meeting the roommate for drinks so he can see them together for the first time.

Hi Bi,
Blimey, things have progress the last three months, yes your first post was end April.

30th April their first fuck.
17th Jul you agreed to being caged and exclusivity for G&C (although not that exclusive!). I never understood why you took the brunt of the fallout for C feeling like a slut.
1st Aug. You ‘think’ C has replaced you as primary mate.

1. Around the 17th Jul you and G were going to go away for a week, this was cancelled due to the agreement. I think you need to talk to G about the two of you going away after the month. Just the 2 of you, no cage and minimal contact with C and if there is contact then it must be shared, i.e. all three in the conversation.

2. Are you still having your conversations with G re “Is our marriage in trouble” and if so has she mentioned any concerns with her feelings/relationship with C. You are going to have to open up to G and be venerable, express your concerns and see what she says. Maybe it’s just the way you see things with being caged. Maybe she still see this as a good fling that will end (see pt 3).

You used to report about long walks you & G had and how you discussed things, as with above has that stopped?

3. C was only going to be around until there was a job opening in his home town, is that still the case?

4. As I have said before, hold them to the month, if you can last that long and depending on the talk under pt 2. Do not agree to any extension, cage comes off and is put away, exclusivity ends and you and G’s time increases, if possible back to them being together 2/3 nights a week, but think that may not be possible with you letting the genie out the bottle.

I don't say much about you & C as I'm straight, so don't have any knowledge on that front.

Gordon

[Chrislydi]

I have to admit I was playing devil's advocate a couple of posts ago with a scenario even I thought highly unlikely, perhaps putting the worst possible, if absolutely incorrect, scenario though can serve a purpose in signalling a trajectory of movement and a care what you wish for sentiment that might come in useful.

I know there are so many reasons why the dystopian future I painted doesn't reflect what you have, as I say there was a method behind posting such madness. I know how you yourself and Conor have developed a close physical and mental rapport, and this was pretty much excluded from my vision of the future, so while conceding it to be absolutely off the mark for accuracy, I'm looking at what points might even have enabled the possibility of such a nightmare future being postulated.

Well remember when Conor first came on the scene, his arrogant pushy no nonsense demeanor and bullish attitude seemed to brook no opposition until you made your fears known to G. The communication got things back on track, but at that stage Conor was still wanting G all to himself and had up to that point shown no bi inclinations at all, in fact being more than likely opposed to it

We then knew his bullish approach wasn't going to make headway and things moved on with a real relationship firmly established between Conor and yourself, with his month long 'looking for work' stay extended indefinitely but also his gradual and continuing sexual preeminence in G's life continuing and unchecked. His dominance by agreement, of which the cage and associated denial is only just the latest manifestation, is now getting him the results his aggression failed with, but none the less it's getting those results and his original intention of moving you out of G's bed to be permanently replaced is still closer than ever.

With G and Conor being far closer, you describe him as her main sexual partner and mate, and spending much longer in and OUT of bed developing their already strong emotional relationship, he is rapidly becoming her total man for everything and maybe soon at least an equal soul mate, while also having a close and good relationship with yourself, very much keeping you onside as his willing supporter. Nonetheless his purposes and aims are being gradually achieved by stealth rather than force, but make no mistake they're being achieved all the same.

Now far more emphasis on what you have with Conor would present a far more balanced picture, but nevertheless his gradual takeover by stealth is very noticeable and the overall trajectory unmistakable.

Chris

[Bi+Gigh]

I’m probably going to catch holy hell for this but I wanted to do a joint response to Gordon’s and Chris’s input. I’m just going to be completely honest and not everybody will agree with my thinking. That’s ok.
Let me start off by saying I believe I know G better than anyone, including her mom. I know how she thinks, I can almost tell what she’s thinking by looking into her eyes and I know her moods as soon as she walks into the room. Based on how I know her, I am not concerned about Conor and her running off together (actually she’s been asking me if I would leave her for Conor – NO). Conor will be moving back to his hometown by year end (he hopes to be back by Christmas). Tbh, I’d hate to see him leave us. But he needs to based on family obligations. Just like she did when my college roommate was moving away, who she had developed a relationship with, she returned to our “normal” married life . . . until Conor came along. And after Conor leaves we will be a “normal” married couple until somebody else comes along. I told her recently that my younger brother knows about our open marriage. Her only reaction was a “I finally get to fuck him” look in her eyes. I told her that would be crossing a line but I also know she and my brother will fuck at some point. Not behind my back but she’ll somehow make it happen. My point is, G is not a one man woman. I knew that back in college and when we got married. She sees someone she wants (like the college boy Griffin) and she goes for it. Again I accept that. If it were just based on my feelings, I would have been fine if she and Griffin got together occasionally. But it wasn’t, it also included Conor’s feelings. He and I have talked a lot about G and her need for an open marriage and to fuck other guys. He would never want that in a wife. I believe, and he has as much as said it, if it were not for me, he probably wouldn’t have stayed around as long as he has. He has admitted to us that he now knows he is bisexual to some degree (more than he may think). He started to really like me at some point and he saw a chance to explore his bi side. When he and I have sex, he’s into it as much as I am. Now we have a great relationship.
So, when I wrote “maybe Conor is her primary mate, but I’m not really sure” I honestly meant it. I don’t really even care. What does primary mate mean anyway? They say “I love you” to each other all the time. G and I say it to each other. Conor and I say it (it’s more of a ‘luv ya, bro’ thing though). When she was with my roommate she would get all googly-eyed being with him and he was probably a primary mate for a time. With G, it’s a temporary thing. I’m not sure she would have even gotten with Conor if he lived here permanently. She likely saw it as a chance for a short term fling with a hot guy without the worry of a long term commitment.
So I really don’t feel any need to have “marriage in trouble” talk with G. We are having an awesome time. The sex I’ve been having with G when I get out of the cage has been amazing, the best in a long time. Even the sex with Conor is intense. Most will not understand this, but I think it’s incredibly sexual and erotic to be in a cage and have my sex life controlled by 2 people that I’m in relationships with. All in all, this has been, and continues to be, a great experience. For the 3 of us.
So I really appreciate the feedback I receive from everyone, especially the warnings kind of feedback that I just got from Gordon and Chris. But this will come to an end in the near future. I just want to enjoy it in the meantime.

[gordon921]

I’m probably going to catch holy hell for this but I wanted to do a joint response to Gordon’s and Chris’s input. I’m just going to be completely honest and not everybody will agree with my thinking. That’s ok.
Let me start off by saying I believe I know G better than anyone, including her mom. I know how she thinks, I can almost tell what she’s thinking by looking into her eyes and I know her moods as soon as she walks into the room. Based on how I know her, I am not concerned about Conor and her running off together (actually she’s been asking me if I would leave her for Conor – NO). Conor will be moving back to his hometown by year end (he hopes to be back by Christmas). Tbh, I’d hate to see him leave us. But he needs to based on family obligations. Just like she did when my college roommate was moving away, who she had developed a relationship with, she returned to our “normal” married life . . . until Conor came along. And after Conor leaves we will be a “normal” married couple until somebody else comes along. I told her recently that my younger brother knows about our open marriage. Her only reaction was a “I finally get to fuck him” look in her eyes. I told her that would be crossing a line but I also know she and my brother will fuck at some point. Not behind my back but she’ll somehow make it happen. My point is, G is not a one man woman. I knew that back in college and when we got married. She sees someone she wants (like the college boy Griffin) and she goes for it. Again I accept that. If it were just based on my feelings, I would have been fine if she and Griffin got together occasionally. But it wasn’t, it also included Conor’s feelings. He and I have talked a lot about G and her need for an open marriage and to fuck other guys. He would never want that in a wife. I believe, and he has as much as said it, if it were not for me, he probably wouldn’t have stayed around as long as he has. He has admitted to us that he now knows he is bisexual to some degree (more than he may think). He started to really like me at some point and he saw a chance to explore his bi side. When he and I have sex, he’s into it as much as I am. Now we have a great relationship.
So, when I wrote “maybe Conor is her primary mate, but I’m not really sure” I honestly meant it. I don’t really even care. What does primary mate mean anyway? They say “I love you” to each other all the time. G and I say it to each other. Conor and I say it (it’s more of a ‘luv ya, bro’ thing though). When she was with my roommate she would get all googly-eyed being with him and he was probably a primary mate for a time. With G, it’s a temporary thing. I’m not sure she would have even gotten with Conor if he lived here permanently. She likely saw it as a chance for a short term fling with a hot guy without the worry of a long term commitment.
So I really don’t feel any need to have “marriage in trouble” talk with G. We are having an awesome time. The sex I’ve been having with G when I get out of the cage has been amazing, the best in a long time. Even the sex with Conor is intense. Most will not understand this, but I think it’s incredibly sexual and erotic to be in a cage and have my sex life controlled by 2 people that I’m in relationships with. All in all, this has been, and continues to be, a great experience. For the 3 of us.
So I really appreciate the feedback I receive from everyone, especially the warnings kind of feedback that I just got from Gordon and Chris. But this will come to an end in the near future. I just want to enjoy it in the meantime.

Hi Bi,

not from me.

It's hard to gauge what people are really feeling/thinking from posts. I took it as you were concerned about the situation and that lead me to my response, but you have laid it all out very well in this post and personally I understand your picture a lot better now. You have explained a lot about the dynamics behind the 3-way relationship.

I think I'll understand your future posts better after this post.

The only thing I chuckle about is think G is going to keep using the cage for quite a while, but sounds like you enjoy it.

To be fair to Chris I think he was thinking similar to me, hence his initial apocalypse post, before his follow-up, but I'll let Chris comment.

Enjoy.

Gordon

[Chrislydi]

I would like to thank you Bi+Gigh for such an extensive, lengthy and in-depth explanation, it's given me an infinitely better understanding of exactly where you are right now, and can only agree that you're on exactly the right pathway with nothing at all to fear.

It might seem like a 180 degrees about turn but this threesome, triad or whatever seems absolutely ideal for everyone to just enjoy and live to the full atm. Whatever then afterwards the future holds, your wonderful wife looks sure to make certain it will never be dull, boring or stale, what an exciting life to be able to look forward to.

Chris

[rascalnvixen]

Hi Bi-guy!! Thanks for the update and clarification. I do have a question for you. So G is going to take Conor with her to meet her best girlfriends soon. Do you think G would be willing to share him with one or more of her friends??? I don't know anything about her friends but if they are adventurous, I'll bet they will want to fuck him since he is so manly and HOT!! That would be a very interesting turn of events!!! Even hotter would be you there in your cage as he does them all, and you do clean up!!!! Hehehe, I'm just kidding about you being there but it is a hot thing to consider.

Rascal

[Brute]

When you used the term “mate” my stomach clenched, because I wasn’t sure what you meant. My worst fear was that comer was becoming her anchor relationship.

[Open2it]

Hi Bi-Gigh,
The only important thing is that you are all happy with your relationship and how you choose to live it. I think you’re doing great and learning a lot along the way to be successful. Enjoy. How’s this stint in chastity going? It sounds like you made the most of your free time

[gordon921]

H i Bi,
how is it going, you have not logged on for a few days so hopefully your having a blast, let us know. I know I upset you with my last but one post but you recovered well, it was possibly one of your best posts.
How is it going with G?
How is it going with c?

[Bigh+Guy]

H i Bi,
how is it going, you have not logged on for a few days so hopefully your having a blast, let us know. I know I upset you with my last but one post but you recovered well, it was possibly one of your best posts.
How is it going with G?
How is it going with c?

First you may notice a new user name. My laptop burned out last week and I couldn't remember what my password was so I re-registered.
Anyway, you did not upset me in the least. If anything, the questions you and Chris brought up made me think through how to best describe what the 3 of us have.
G and Conor went out with Conor's roommate Saturday night. I think every chance the roommate had to flirt with G he tried. I think he was confusing a woman being in an open marriage with someone who fucks anybody. Both G and Conor set him straight and he apologized. I asked G later if she would be interested in fucking him and she just said maybe lol. That means yes.
I was still in my cage when they got home that night so I was straining in it while I listened to them going at it. But Sundy morning, Conor told me to come into the bedroom and lay with them. He proceeded to take the cage off, G straddled me so I could go down (or up?) on her and Conor gave me a blow job. It was a first for that positioning. After, he fucked me. Conor left and G and I spent the rest of the day together with no cage on. It was awesome. I feel like a decent lover again.
Unfortunately, she left this morning for a few days of work. Conor said he'd keep the cage off so maybe we can have some more fun.

[gordon921]

If you forget it again then on the logon page you can click on "I forgot my password" enter your email and it'll send you a link to change your password.

Sounds like things are settling down nicely for the three of you. "Conor left and G and I spent the rest of the day together with no cage on. It was awesome. I feel like a decent lover again." does this imply you never got out of bed

[Bigh+Guy]

If you forget it again then on the logon page you can click on "I forgot my password" enter your email and it'll send you a link to change your password.

Sounds like things are settling down nicely for the three of you. "Conor left and G and I spent the rest of the day together with no cage on. It was awesome. I feel like a decent lover again." does this imply you never got out of bed

No, lol, we got out of bed. But we had sex again on the sofa. But then she had to get to the airport. And Conor's been staying here so the cage will be off for a few days.

[gordon921]

If you forget it again then on the logon page you can click on "I forgot my password" enter your email and it'll send you a link to change your password.

Sounds like things are settling down nicely for the three of you. "Conor left and G and I spent the rest of the day together with no cage on. It was awesome. I feel like a decent lover again." does this imply you never got out of bed

No, lol, we got out of bed. But we had sex again on the sofa. But then she had to get to the airport. And Conor's been staying here so the cage will be off for a few days.

I'm sure others would like details but I'm straight, so pass . When is G back which night is that - yours or C's?

[Bigh+Guy]

I do try to keep the details of sex between Conor and I to a minimum. I know the majority of people on this site are straight and not all that interested in hearing about what 2 guys do between the sheets. So I respect that.

And, in tribute to my amazing sexual prowess, G and I will be alone tomorrow night when she comes back. That might not be entirely true lol. Conor left on business this morning and won't be back until friday. But at least my cage is still off. It's going back on Friday morning. G wants it back on.

[eurocuck]

I do try to keep the details of sex between Conor and I to a minimum. I know the majority of people on this site are straight and not all that interested in hearing about what 2 guys do between the sheets. So I respect that.

And, in tribute to my amazing sexual prowess, G and I will be alone tomorrow night when she comes back. That might not be entirely true lol. Conor left on business this morning and won't be back until friday. But at least my cage is still off. It's going back on Friday morning. G wants it back on.

I would love to read more for your sex with Conor!

[gordon921]

I do try to keep the details of sex between Conor and I to a minimum. I know the majority of people on this site are straight and not all that interested in hearing about what 2 guys do between the sheets. So I respect that.

And, in tribute to my amazing sexual prowess, G and I will be alone tomorrow night when she comes back. That might not be entirely true lol. Conor left on business this morning and won't be back until friday. But at least my cage is still off. It's going back on Friday morning. G wants it back on.

So with timezones, you and G will be together Thursday night and you uncaged and then G will put the cage on Friday morning before C gets back?

[Bigh+Guy]

I do try to keep the details of sex between Conor and I to a minimum. I know the majority of people on this site are straight and not all that interested in hearing about what 2 guys do between the sheets. So I respect that.

And, in tribute to my amazing sexual prowess, G and I will be alone tomorrow night when she comes back. That might not be entirely true lol. Conor left on business this morning and won't be back until friday. But at least my cage is still off. It's going back on Friday morning. G wants it back on.

I would love to read more for your sex with Conor!

I've gotten a few pm's as well (more than I expected) telling me that people are interested in the details of the sex between me and Conor. So I will include some detail without being overly explicit. Thanks for the feedback everyone.

He stayed here a couple of nights this week. I think it's safe to say he probably wasn't missing G a ton given how many times we both got off. It was hot.