It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[w770]

I think your Limits that you will set out to him are reasonable. I have limits and I make sure they are known. I think it is good have his comments be directed to her and you will hear them but not directly at you. One thing to point is make sure you stand your ground in that if something is too much for you or you don't want him to talk to you like make sure to say something, you don't have to get all pissed but be firm, if you go along with something it will be a sign that you want or like it and things will grow. Also if you have told her things you don't want but then he does them and you take it this will certainly lower your place as a man to your wife , It might not be somehting that effects your day to day life but a wife can not unsee her husband taking shit from a man any more then you can unsee her getting fucked.


That lucky bastard will be getting a nice long naughty blow job from your wife soon .

Thanks, yeah I intend on standing firm on my boundaries. If the conversation gets to the point where he accepts me listening in or watching, she will impress upon the idea to him that I am there for those purposes alone.

She's getting herself ready to meet him now. Black panties and a matching bra. I'm assuming everything but her panties won't be staying on long.

I personally enjoy watching my wife. But I can see how it would be traumatic if you’re not ready for it. That’s why I suggested to take it in small doses.

Even if you are never in the same apartment, just the idea of her running downstairs to ride his massive cock then coming right back to you is very hot.

It is really hot. Seeing her as giddy as she is after she comes back to me is a huge turn on knowing that he gave that to her.

You make a lot of really good points. I think she has developed a fantasy of me watching them fuck very recently as a result of Superman bringing it out of her. And that's a great idea of maybe watching her blow him instead of the entire act.

I know it sounds stupid, but I'm really intimidated by Lana seeing my dick compared to his cock at the same time. It's no secret that he's MUCH bigger than me, but I think the difference in size will be even more stark if she sees both simultaneously. It's part of the reason why I'm apprehensive of watching them, because I don't know if I'll be able to resist touching myself if I were to see it happening right in front of me.

This is a classic bull move where there is a large size difference, and to all intents and purposes implanting the difference in your wife's brain. A visual side by side comparison can't not have a big impact on the woman experiencing both. Of course she knows the difference all ready, but this visual comparison can't help but lessen her physical attraction to you in relative terms as it increases hers to large cocks, it's a real stepping stone to some sort of denial. If you're uncertain of your cuck inclinations then I would say don't go there, this isn't a baby step but a step which for all her reassuring words, can't NOT lessen you in her eyes (even if only not wanting you as much physically anymore, so gradual denial to complete denial are the logical steps ahead) it's more a step imo for those confirmed cucks who are far more comfortable in their sexual mores. Step very carefully or you will imperceptibly and almost unknowingly drift very much into the realms of real cuckold territory, whether or not you are happy in doing so.

Superman won't be shy in underlining what she's seen for herself, and will find ways in which to emphasise how little you have in comparison to him - even if open humiliation isn't allowed. This is a boundary which you should not cross unless you're comfortable with going deep as a cuck and recognise it as that line crossed that confirmed you as the lesser man in her eyes, (and I only mean that physically), with no going back to your former status. Emotionally there will still be the strong connection but I think it's a little naive to think her reassuring words mean she won't or can't lose some respect for you, yes - this might be her intention but intentions and reality can be strange bedfellows.

Chris

This very much sounds like a event horizon, point of no return situation that you're describing. Taken together with other comments here, coupled with my overall insecurity in this area, I think I'm tending to the side of just listening from outside the bedroom, at least for the first few times. I've never heard the obsession in her voice during the times I listened in, and I think compounding that with an act of comparison will be too overwhelming for the moment we're in.

To me this sounds like you are playing with words. Almost like you choose to believe that she’s never lost respect for you so that’s just the truth. But when you say things like subservience and willing to suffer indignities I can’t wrap my head around that and reconcile it with the fact that you think that you haven’t lost respect. Is it possible that she tells you that she still respect you so you choose to believe it? I know this sounds like I’m attacking you and it’s not I just don’t understand. I come at this from the perspective of someone who has had the pleasure of sleeping with four wives in my younger years. A couple of those situation went down what I at the time considered a pretty dark path. In one of the situation‘s the wife really got off on her husband‘s submission to me And it went further and further as time went on. Eventually in this particular situation it really did lead to problems. Now like I’ve seen on this forum many times that marriage had problems before I got there. But to be honest they really didn’t think they had problems until all of this happened. For my part this was a long time ago and I really didn’t understand the dynamic that I was participating in the way I do now. They would set boundaries but then they would get off on breaking the boundaries. I was a dumb kid who was happy to take it as far as she wanted and he allowed me to take it.

no offense taken. I appreciate your concern but this is merely one sentence, referencing a large part of our lives (we've been together 15 years) to illustrate a point. My wife and I communicate extensively about everything - not just sex - and I know she respects and loves me. There's also a bunch of other stuff she does to me that to an outside observer would contradict that - but that is by the by. I totally understand that some relationships in this this and other alternative lifestyles can be unhealthy and fester - but that is not us. Enough about me let's get back on topic...

Update: Lana and him are meeting up for coffee later. She's going to tell him that I came home and smelled the sex throughout the bedroom, saw her laying naked on the bed with the sheets thrown about and accepted what had just happened. She'll also tell him that she's informed me of her desire to continue on with him and to get his feelings over making me watch or at the very least, listen. She'll let his reaction guide the conversation and if he is onboard, she will go over boundaries. She won't say anything directly addressing the week before the last time they fucked, and he's free to assume I don't know if that where his mind goes. If they make it this far into the conversation, they'll discuss schedules and when the big day will be. She's also given me veto authority on any plans made with him at any point I choose should I feel uneasy about any instance.

Jumping right into the fire here.

So her story to him is that you basically found her post-fuck, the evidence clearly pointing to her having just had sex with SM. You ‘accepted’ that it happened, whatever that means, and she then informed you of her desire(demand?) to continue seeing him.

This story seems to put you not in a superior position of any strength, but in an inferior position of the accepting cuckold who’s basically kowtow to his wife and dominant lover. You will look weak in the eyes of her Superman. He will treat you accordingly.

Honestly, I see problems ahead with this approach. Again you talk about your communication and control of the situation, but then didn’t you say you two were going to wait until the weekend to respond to him, or when her period was over. Just like the start of this, she, yes your wife, is moving you two very quickly into the next phase of this. Be careful what you wish for is the most common warning you’ll receive, for very good reason.

I can see how you can describe her as being very intelligent, as she seems to be, can I say manipulating, you into accepting the timeline and their activities according to her desires. She consults you, you come up with a plan, and then invariably she works around or over you to get what she wants.

You both have NRE, Lana with Superman and his super cock, and you with the adrenaline rush of your wife’s activities. As I said in recent posts, you’re saying no to several activities now, but let’s see where you are right around the first of the year. I see overnights definitely in the future and possibly other activities as you soften your stance as the affair continues and you seek more excitement and higher thrills. Just like a drug you’ll need more extreme activities to quench your need for a rush. Make sure you are not doing all of your thinking with your small head, but using the head on top of your shoulders.

I know I sound super negative, and I really don’t mean to piss on your parade. None of us know either of you, and we only know the details you share through the lens of your observations and experiences. When you say trust me/us, I have no option but to do that. However after being on this forum for a while you begin to pick up on red flags that appear from time to time in the threads you read. I just think I see a couple here.

Also, as you enjoy writing about the experiences of you and your super sexy wife Lana to clear your head and have somewhere to share, the rest of us like to share our reactions to your story.

As always I wish good luck to you and your hotwife as you journey through this lifestyle. I hope this continues to enhance your relationship and you get out of it what you desire. Have fun and I can’t wait to hear how their conversation went and how much she enjoyed sucking his cock afterward.

I appreciate your thoughts and I do hear what you're saying. I initially thought that the pause would take as long as we first posited, as I believed that we would need quite a bit of time to suss out some details. However, we've discussed this a lot over the past two nights, two afternoons over lunch, two mornings, etc. In fact, it's been our primary topic of conversation and I wouldn't be moving forward tonight if I had my reservations.

Additionally, we both view Superman's time here like the calculating of dog years. 1 year being equal to 7. His impending departure really expedites our decision making but at the same time, offers us a chance to have a natural end date to the experience, at least with him. Like a summer love you know that won't last, it almost makes it easier in a way.

[veub]

So her story to him is that you basically found her post-fuck, the evidence clearly pointing to her having just had sex with SM. You ‘accepted’ that it happened, whatever that means, and she then informed you of her desire(demand?) to continue seeing him.

This story seems to put you not in a superior position of any strength, but in an inferior position of the accepting cuckold who’s basically kowtow to his wife and dominant lover. You will look weak in the eyes of her Superman. He will treat you accordingly.

Correct.

[w770]

So her story to him is that you basically found her post-fuck, the evidence clearly pointing to her having just had sex with SM. You ‘accepted’ that it happened, whatever that means, and she then informed you of her desire(demand?) to continue seeing him.

This story seems to put you not in a superior position of any strength, but in an inferior position of the accepting cuckold who’s basically kowtow to his wife and dominant lover. You will look weak in the eyes of her Superman. He will treat you accordingly.

Correct.

I'm fine with Superman having any such opinion of me really. Whether he sees me as weak or his equal, it makes no difference to me. However, Lana will lay out the boundaries and should he exceed those, he knows that those actions will end the experience.

[FadermanL20]

Are you feeling any angst? There's a lot riding on this meeting-for all parties.

[gulfcpl]

Every body hates me on here when I preach honesty, but I'm too stupid to listen to them.
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth. Invite spmn to your apartment and together or only Lana and tell him everything. Tell him what your expectations are concerning everything.My guess is that he will be more than happy to continue fucking Lana and whatever amount of humiliation you want him to provide you.
If he says no thank you, You'll be getting an early start to Lana's searching for another fuck. If he says YEPEEE. You put the search off till later.
By being honest there's no trying to cover your tracks when Lana gives him a cock and bull (pun intended) story and he starts asking questions. I think it would be much worse if he thinks your trying to pull the wool over his eyes.
Be honest. Everyone is on the same page. Everybody gets what they want.

PS. Hang on too your dick buddy because over the next weeks/months/years Lana is going to take you on a journey that many can't handle. She's hooked harder than if it was heroin.
Good luck!

I preached it to but to no avail. Making up stories leads to more covering. Having said that, it’s their decision. I do feel that you should have joined them for coffee. It seems strange that you would have Lana talk to him alone about boundaries. This definitely doesn’t show strength. Just my thought.

[Seekingmore12]

A suggestion, perhaps tonight share this forum with Lana, if she decides to join us here, she could become verified, have access to the ladies lounge and chat with the wonderful hotwives that are here.

It might be good for her to have other women to chat with about what’s happening

[phoenix2020]

w770 - Lana seems to be having the time of her life. As long as she has been honest with you, I don't see any danger signs yet. Like I said before, if you want some (or more) humiliation, then by all means encourage her. But be prepared for the line to move as you get more into that. However, if you want it kept more respectful vs. you can't fill her needs, then concentrate simply on how sexy you find her and how much it turns you on that she is taking another man...without humiliation talk.

I hope you give her a nice long French-kiss when she returns! I bet she'll stay longer down at his place than you expect, too.

[wrknman66]

Chris really has a ton of insight and hIs responses to this thread have been great. He should write his own book.....I've appreciated the openness in this thread and how much of an effort to include us all has been made

[w770]

Every body hates me on here when I preach honesty, but I'm too stupid to listen to them.
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth. Invite spmn to your apartment and together or only Lana and tell him everything. Tell him what your expectations are concerning everything.My guess is that he will be more than happy to continue fucking Lana and whatever amount of humiliation you want him to provide you.
If he says no thank you, You'll be getting an early start to Lana's searching for another fuck. If he says YEPEEE. You put the search off till later.
By being honest there's no trying to cover your tracks when Lana gives him a cock and bull (pun intended) story and he starts asking questions. I think it would be much worse if he thinks your trying to pull the wool over his eyes.
Be honest. Everyone is on the same page. Everybody gets what they want.

PS. Hang on too your dick buddy because over the next weeks/months/years Lana is going to take you on a journey that many can't handle. She's hooked harder than if it was heroin.
Good luck!

I preached it to but to no avail. Making up stories leads to more covering. Having said that, it’s their decision. I do feel that you should have joined them for coffee. It seems strange that you would have Lana talk to him alone about boundaries. This definitely doesn’t show strength. Just my thought.

I do appreciate everyone's input, even if we landed somewhere else. The decision for Lana to go alone was partly because I'm not necessarily ready to hear or see them being sexual yet, which I suspect will be the case as soon as they're done at the coffee shop, and the other half was boring logistics as I had a call with a client that took up a lot of time followed up with a dog walk, some errands to run and other real life things. Additionally, I really have no opinion on how Superman sees me, so I don't care to put energy into projecting a sense of strength to him. Lana has been incredible in her honesty and level of openness and support throughout, so as long as her and I maintain the same level of respect for each other, Superman can think whatever he wants of me.

w770 - Lana seems to be having the time of her life. As long as she has been honest with you, I don't see any danger signs yet. Like I said before, if you want some (or more) humiliation, then by all means encourage her. But be prepared for the line to move as you get more into that. However, if you want it kept more respectful vs. you can't fill her needs, then concentrate simply on how sexy you find her and how much it turns you on that she is taking another man...without humiliation talk.

I hope you give her a nice long French-kiss when she returns! I bet she'll stay longer down at his place than you expect, too.

Thanks! I mentioned something earlier about how the boundaries in terms of humiliation will be fluid as it's hard to draw the line of what specific things can and can't be said because of the dynamic nature of speech and also being in the heat of the moment. My guess is that it will take a few times before we have more solidly defined lines but as of now, we already have full stop boundaries that will result in an end to the encounter if not the relationship between them.

A suggestion, perhaps tonight share this forum with Lana, if she decides to join us here, she could become verified, have access to the ladies lounge and chat with the wonderful hotwives that are here.

It might be good for her to have other women to chat with about what’s happening

She knows of the site at this point, but I haven't mentioned a ladies section. I'll bring it up to her tonight, although I don't foresee it happening. She's barely on social media and typically sees it as important to leave a discrete digital footprint.

[w770]

Chris really has a ton of insight and hIs responses to this thread have been great. He should write his own book.....I've appreciated the openness in this thread and how much of an effort to include us all has been made

Yeah he's been great, just like a lot of others. I just started his thread earlier today and it's very well done.

[gulfcpl]

Regardless, make this fun! You both know how good it can be. The new normal is great! Can’t wait to hear how good the coffee was. Ha.

[Chrislydi]

I'm very much of the same opinion as Mundyman, Lana seems to be driving this driven by her own discovered desires and knows how to find a way of bringing everyone else along, summer doesn't seem the definite end point and this the end game, but rather just pressing a pause button which will continue. She is really the sole driver, and the danger signals while not planted on the front lawn are appearing. It's not so much there's any danger of a break up for the marriage but a permanent changing of respect and roles, a more dominant and submissive, a cuckoldress who looks on her cuckold in a different light with thoughts even if not expressed with words.

It's not so much a runaway train yet, but the chance to get off is rapidly disappearing as it gathers pace, if not a continuation with Superman via videolink and less frequent meetings in person, then at least a rendezvous set for next summer, and meanwhile having seen this new light, a chance to experience other men that are much 'better' than her husband. She's acquired a taste, taken a sampler of this addictive drug and any loss of sexual appetite for her husband will create a gap in her life that needs to be filled. Great if you want to be a confirmed cuckold.

Chris

[chastity_boi]

So I assume she is still with him right now ‘having coffee’ and outing w770 as a cuckold to Superman. How you feeling during the radio silence w770?

[hubudig2]

w770,
I answered your questions but my posts have to be moderated so by the time they show they're already pages back, I can't PM either.
I'll repost both answers below hoping it's less busy.

This is interesting. I've never considered doing this as it's never been something that appealed to me, however, if you both are saying that it's a method to give a woman a mind blowing orgasm, I'm intrigued. Is it accurate to say that it's a mental thing?

It has to be because I made a point of going down on her before I faked cumming and it was a normal/pleasurable response but 30 seconds later when she thought I had cum in her it was a crazy orgasmic one.
I would definitely recommend it as something to try, you might just get hooked on how she reacts to it.
Also it's probably easier if it's someone else's because you're still horned up but I can't confirm that.

I've been visiting this forum for a long while but this thread is so hot it made me register.
I'm not a cuck however, the stories/situations turn me on from a bull perspective.

From a Bull perspective, can you shed light on the difference between the husband watching, not watching and not knowing? There are a lot of differing views here (which I appreciate all varying opinions) but it would be interesting to know what Superman may or may not be thinking from where you sit.

I imagine every bull and situation would be different but if it were me at his age...
Sneaking around might be fun at first but I think that got boring once he realised he could have Lana whenever he wanted. It was easy and no risk as far as he was concerned, it would be far more fun to actively push the limits of getting caught because he doesn't fear what you might do and there's no long term consequences.
Ultimately I would want you to watch. I'd want you to be in awe of what I can make your wife do and feel. I'd want you to enjoy watching as she submits to me in ways you've never seen her do and make her enjoy sex in ways you can never do for her. I'd also get a kick out of how humiliating it would be for you. Personally I'd want to see you express your love to her by holding hands, kissing, going down on her, cleaning up etc. I imagine she would want you to do those same things to put her at ease and so she knows you approve. Using a woman as your fuck toy while the guy that she means everything to watches is hot as fuck.
If you were aware but not watching, I'd want to find ways to do all the same things but by leaving evidence, reminders and having her make my sexual pleasure her #1 priority. I'd want you to have to plan around her having sex with me. I'd want to get in your head as much as possible which might lead to more sneaking around and you being a bit more out of the loop and out of control.

Don't hate me for putting myself in his shoes lol.
I'm not saying this is what I would do now but what I think I would've done at that age and in his situation.

[hiki]

I am feeling very optimistic and positive about W and Lana's adventure. You have amazing, honest communication going on on a continuous basis. She seems to understand how challenging this is for you and she is very concerned about your feelings in a gentle loving way. She is always wanting to reconnect with you to make this a joint adventure and not just something she is doing by herself. Perhaps that is the motive behind her wanting you to be there to watch her and Superman, as well. To make this something you do together. To have you watching her is also giving her the reassurance that you are accepting what she is doing. Also, having that definite end-point is good, this whole thing has an expiration date. I am optimistic that everything will go well and this will be the best and most memorable experience of your life!

[eventfire]

Chris hit the nail on the head. She's tasted a drug that she's never had and she likes it. From here on out everything will be measured against it. Your enabling of this widens a gap that you'll never be able to fill and the choice you'll have to make is between her satisfaction and your reluctance to become submissive in the relationship. She may pay lip service to you as far as taking things in stride and respecting boundaries, but from what you've described, her enthusiasm says otherwise. My money says tonight's bj is way more than that whether she admits it or not.

[mundyman]

I think your Limits that you will set out to him are reasonable. I have limits and I make sure they are known. I think it is good have his comments be directed to her and you will hear them but not directly at you. One thing to point is make sure you stand your ground in that if something is too much for you or you don't want him to talk to you like make sure to say something, you don't have to get all pissed but be firm, if you go along with something it will be a sign that you want or like it and things will grow. Also if you have told her things you don't want but then he does them and you take it this will certainly lower your place as a man to your wife , It might not be somehting that effects your day to day life but a wife can not unsee her husband taking shit from a man any more then you can unsee her getting fucked.


That lucky bastard will be getting a nice long naughty blow job from your wife soon .

Thanks, yeah I intend on standing firm on my boundaries. If the conversation gets to the point where he accepts me listening in or watching, she will impress upon the idea to him that I am there for those purposes alone.

She's getting herself ready to meet him now. Black panties and a matching bra. I'm assuming everything but her panties won't be staying on long.

I personally enjoy watching my wife. But I can see how it would be traumatic if you’re not ready for it. That’s why I suggested to take it in small doses.

Even if you are never in the same apartment, just the idea of her running downstairs to ride his massive cock then coming right back to you is very hot.

It is really hot. Seeing her as giddy as she is after she comes back to me is a huge turn on knowing that he gave that to her.

This is a classic bull move where there is a large size difference, and to all intents and purposes implanting the difference in your wife's brain. A visual side by side comparison can't not have a big impact on the woman experiencing both. Of course she knows the difference all ready, but this visual comparison can't help but lessen her physical attraction to you in relative terms as it increases hers to large cocks, it's a real stepping stone to some sort of denial. If you're uncertain of your cuck inclinations then I would say don't go there, this isn't a baby step but a step which for all her reassuring words, can't NOT lessen you in her eyes (even if only not wanting you as much physically anymore, so gradual denial to complete denial are the logical steps ahead) it's more a step imo for those confirmed cucks who are far more comfortable in their sexual mores. Step very carefully or you will imperceptibly and almost unknowingly drift very much into the realms of real cuckold territory, whether or not you are happy in doing so.

Superman won't be shy in underlining what she's seen for herself, and will find ways in which to emphasise how little you have in comparison to him - even if open humiliation isn't allowed. This is a boundary which you should not cross unless you're comfortable with going deep as a cuck and recognise it as that line crossed that confirmed you as the lesser man in her eyes, (and I only mean that physically), with no going back to your former status. Emotionally there will still be the strong connection but I think it's a little naive to think her reassuring words mean she won't or can't lose some respect for you, yes - this might be her intention but intentions and reality can be strange bedfellows.

Chris

This very much sounds like a event horizon, point of no return situation that you're describing. Taken together with other comments here, coupled with my overall insecurity in this area, I think I'm tending to the side of just listening from outside the bedroom, at least for the first few times. I've never heard the obsession in her voice during the times I listened in, and I think compounding that with an act of comparison will be too overwhelming for the moment we're in.

no offense taken. I appreciate your concern but this is merely one sentence, referencing a large part of our lives (we've been together 15 years) to illustrate a point. My wife and I communicate extensively about everything - not just sex - and I know she respects and loves me. There's also a bunch of other stuff she does to me that to an outside observer would contradict that - but that is by the by. I totally understand that some relationships in this this and other alternative lifestyles can be unhealthy and fester - but that is not us. Enough about me let's get back on topic...

Update: Lana and him are meeting up for coffee later. She's going to tell him that I came home and smelled the sex throughout the bedroom, saw her laying naked on the bed with the sheets thrown about and accepted what had just happened. She'll also tell him that she's informed me of her desire to continue on with him and to get his feelings over making me watch or at the very least, listen. She'll let his reaction guide the conversation and if he is onboard, she will go over boundaries. She won't say anything directly addressing the week before the last time they fucked, and he's free to assume I don't know if that where his mind goes. If they make it this far into the conversation, they'll discuss schedules and when the big day will be. She's also given me veto authority on any plans made with him at any point I choose should I feel uneasy about any instance.

Jumping right into the fire here.

So her story to him is that you basically found her post-fuck, the evidence clearly pointing to her having just had sex with SM. You ‘accepted’ that it happened, whatever that means, and she then informed you of her desire(demand?) to continue seeing him.

This story seems to put you not in a superior position of any strength, but in an inferior position of the accepting cuckold who’s basically kowtow to his wife and dominant lover. You will look weak in the eyes of her Superman. He will treat you accordingly.

Honestly, I see problems ahead with this approach. Again you talk about your communication and control of the situation, but then didn’t you say you two were going to wait until the weekend to respond to him, or when her period was over. Just like the start of this, she, yes your wife, is moving you two very quickly into the next phase of this. Be careful what you wish for is the most common warning you’ll receive, for very good reason.

I can see how you can describe her as being very intelligent, as she seems to be, can I say manipulating, you into accepting the timeline and their activities according to her desires. She consults you, you come up with a plan, and then invariably she works around or over you to get what she wants.

You both have NRE, Lana with Superman and his super cock, and you with the adrenaline rush of your wife’s activities. As I said in recent posts, you’re saying no to several activities now, but let’s see where you are right around the first of the year. I see overnights definitely in the future and possibly other activities as you soften your stance as the affair continues and you seek more excitement and higher thrills. Just like a drug you’ll need more extreme activities to quench your need for a rush. Make sure you are not doing all of your thinking with your small head, but using the head on top of your shoulders.

I know I sound super negative, and I really don’t mean to piss on your parade. None of us know either of you, and we only know the details you share through the lens of your observations and experiences. When you say trust me/us, I have no option but to do that. However after being on this forum for a while you begin to pick up on red flags that appear from time to time in the threads you read. I just think I see a couple here.

Also, as you enjoy writing about the experiences of you and your super sexy wife Lana to clear your head and have somewhere to share, the rest of us like to share our reactions to your story.

As always I wish good luck to you and your hotwife as you journey through this lifestyle. I hope this continues to enhance your relationship and you get out of it what you desire. Have fun and I can’t wait to hear how their conversation went and how much she enjoyed sucking his cock afterward.

I appreciate your thoughts and I do hear what you're saying. I initially thought that the pause would take as long as we first posited, as I believed that we would need quite a bit of time to suss out some details. However, we've discussed this a lot over the past two nights, two afternoons over lunch, two mornings, etc. In fact, it's been our primary topic of conversation and I wouldn't be moving forward tonight if I had my reservations.

Additionally, we both view Superman's time here like the calculating of dog years. 1 year being equal to 7. His impending departure really expedites our decision making but at the same time, offers us a chance to have a natural end date to the experience, at least with him. Like a summer love you know that won't last, it almost makes it easier in a way.

[FadermanL20]

It's been over 5 hours since W770 sent that she was putting on the black panties for the meetup. Suspense!

[w770]

So the conversation started off with an apologetic tone from Superman, saying all the right things, hoping that he didn’t make a mess of her marriage. Lana saw right through the façade and asked him whether he was trying to get “caught” the other night, and if he was serious about me coming home and seeing them in bed together. He admitted that he did have a fascination with having sex with a married woman and having the husband walk in on them, and likened it back to the married woman he fucked in California and how he would go out of the way to leave signs that she had been cheating on him. He enjoys the ego boost of having a married woman give into his seduction in addition to the rush that the inherent risk it carries. He said that he missed her over the last few days after becoming addicted to her and admitted that maybe he did try to take it too far as he could tell that there was a lot of love between myself and Lana. As planned, Lana didn’t give him much to go on and spent a lot of the first 15-20 minutes listening and letting him do most of the talking. After Superman had exhausted himself with self-reflection and atonement, Lana reassured him by making slight contact with his forearm and telling him that it was okay and that her marriage was going to be just fine. “In fact, I’ve sort of been reflecting the past few days too, and I want to keep having fun together.”

Now before she left to meet up with him, I told Lana that if the conversation goes into a place that we didn’t necessarily plan for, she’s free to riff. Taking that coupled with the fact that Superman had confessed a particular kink for bull tendencies with his story about the married woman in California, she took it upon herself to tell him that she was turned on by the idea of me watching them together. She tells me that the look on his face was akin to that of a lottery winner – suddenly the universe of possibilities was open to him and she could see the wave of excitement come over him. “Don’t get too excited yet big guy…” as she went over the boundaries, things that are considered deal breakers, and the fact that I have the last say and sole veto on any encounter. She went into the limits of the dirty talk, the humiliation, and how it might take a few times before I’m actually in the room watching. And as expected, he agreed to it all. After all, it’s Lana.

On their way back home, she sends me three emojis, but I’m out running errands, making it untenable to start stroking myself in my state of angst.

They eventually make it back to his place and as if the last two days of hiatus never happened, they picked up where they left off. He picked her up and planted a long kiss on her lips, telling her how much he missed her as she returned the sentiment as he carried her into his room and threw her onto his bed. He took off his shirt and joined Lana on the bed, their hands all over each other, her telling him how much she missed his body as he worked her shirt and bra off, eventually fondling and sucking on her perky breasts. She reminded him that she’s on her period so that her panties will be remaining on as he took her pants off, kissing and worshipping her legs that he had become obsessed with. “But I really want to suck that cock, baby.” As she’s telling me this, I can’t help but feel that tinge of insecurity, like a punch to the gut, as I felt like it wasn’t that long ago that she was wrapping her lips around my dick, easily putting my entire length in her mouth, compared with Superman’s massive unit that she can barely get her mouth around past the head let alone wrap her hand around his girth. He strips off the remainder of his clothing and positions himself over Lana so that his knees are to either side of her, while pinning her wrists against the headboard. Without the use of her arms, she’s unable to stroke his giant cock and instead resorts to kissing his shaft from base to tip, teasing him with her tongue until he works his length into her mouth. “Fuccckkkk Lana………… God I missed that mouth……..” After a few minutes, he eventually releases her hands and grabs the back of her head, slowly thrusting into her, fucking her mouth.

It keeps going until he loses control and explodes his load of warm cum into her mouth, which she swallows. “Lana…. I can’t move.” he tells her as he’s laying next to her, completely drained. They spend about another 30 minutes, lying in bed naked (almost naked for her), talking more about the arrangement. He talks about how he loves the idea of fucking her again in our bed while I watch as he carefully goes over the rules again, what constitutes an acceptable level of humiliation, and how excited he is. All of our schedules are a bit tenuous this weekend, but the plan is to touch base again before then so we can settle on a definitive date. But in all likelihood, it appears we’re on the onset of the next step.

[gulfcpl]

So glad it’s working itself out.

[johnstevens555]

So the conversation started off with an apologetic tone from Superman, saying all the right things, hoping that he didn’t make a mess of her marriage. Lana saw right through the façade and asked him whether he was trying to get “caught” the other night, and if he was serious about me coming home and seeing them in bed together. He admitted that he did have a fascination with having sex with a married woman and having the husband walk in on them, and likened it back to the married woman he fucked in California and how he would go out of the way to leave signs that she had been cheating on him. He enjoys the ego boost of having a married woman give into his seduction in addition to the rush that the inherent risk it carries. He said that he missed her over the last few days after becoming addicted to her and admitted that maybe he did try to take it too far as he could tell that there was a lot of love between myself and Lana. As planned, Lana didn’t give him much to go on and spent a lot of the first 15-20 minutes listening and letting him do most of the talking. After Superman had exhausted himself with self-reflection and atonement, Lana reassured him by making slight contact with his forearm and telling him that it was okay and that her marriage was going to be just fine. “In fact, I’ve sort of been reflecting the past few days too, and I want to keep having fun together.”

Now before she left to meet up with him, I told Lana that if the conversation goes into a place that we didn’t necessarily plan for, she’s free to riff. Taking that coupled with the fact that Superman had confessed a particular kink for bull tendencies with his story about the married woman in California, she took it upon herself to tell him that she was turned on by the idea of me watching them together. She tells me that the look on his face was akin to that of a lottery winner – suddenly the universe of possibilities was open to him and she could see the wave of excitement come over him. “Don’t get too excited yet big guy…” as she went over the boundaries, things that are considered deal breakers, and the fact that I have the last say and sole veto on any encounter. She went into the limits of the dirty talk, the humiliation, and how it might take a few times before I’m actually in the room watching. And as expected, he agreed to it all. After all, it’s Lana.

On their way back home, she sends me three emojis, but I’m out running errands, making it untenable to start stroking myself in my state of angst.

They eventually make it back to his place and as if the last two days of hiatus never happened, they picked up where they left off. He picked her up and planted a long kiss on her lips, telling her how much he missed her as she returned the sentiment as he carried her into his room and threw her onto his bed. He took off his shirt and joined Lana on the bed, their hands all over each other, her telling him how much she missed his body as he worked her shirt and bra off, eventually fondling and sucking on her perky breasts. She reminded him that she’s on her period so that her panties will be remaining on as he took her pants off, kissing and worshipping her legs that he had become obsessed with. “But I really want to suck that cock, baby.” As she’s telling me this, I can’t help but feel that tinge of insecurity, like a punch to the gut, as I felt like it wasn’t that long ago that she was wrapping her lips around my dick, easily putting my entire length in her mouth, compared with Superman’s massive unit that she can barely get her mouth around past the head let alone wrap her hand around his girth. He strips off the remainder of his clothing and positions himself over Lana so that his knees are to either side of her, while pinning her wrists against the headboard. Without the use of her arms, she’s unable to stroke his giant cock and instead resorts to kissing his shaft from base to tip, teasing him with her tongue until he works his length into her mouth. “Fuccckkkk Lana………… God I missed that mouth……..” After a few minutes, he eventually releases her hands and grabs the back of her head, slowly thrusting into her, fucking her mouth.

It keeps going until he loses control and explodes his load of warm cum into her mouth, which she swallows. “Lana…. I can’t move.” he tells her as he’s laying next to her, completely drained. They spend about another 30 minutes, lying in bed naked (almost naked for her), talking more about the arrangement. He talks about how he loves the idea of fucking her again in our bed while I watch as he carefully goes over the rules again, what constitutes an acceptable level of humiliation, and how excited he is. All of our schedules are a bit tenuous this weekend, but the plan is to touch base again before then so we can settle on a definitive date. But in all likelihood, it appears we’re on the onset of the next step.

If you dont mind, what were the boundaries, acceptable levels of humiliation, and hard stops that the told him?

[whenwillshe]

Congratulations on raising the bar.
I would have been surprised if he had bailed on this incredible deal.
Thanks again for sharing and we look forward to the next month in your journey.
My wife is also following along and has had many orgasms of her own on this thread

[mundyman]

Damn the torpedoes!!
Full speed ahead.
Have fun!!
Does Lana have an older sister or Aunt?
LOL.

[InigoMontoya]

Lana will lay out the boundaries and should he exceed those, he knows that those actions will end the experience.

No, he doesn't know that. All evidence that he will be in possession of says quite the opposite.

By hiding the fact that you knew all along, Superman "knows" that he can bend Lana to his will (and maybe he can). As such, he'll believe that whatever rules Lana puts in place, he can - with time and a few sweet words - convince her to break.

After all, he "convinced" her to fuck around on her husband once; breaking one of the (traditionally) biggest rules around.

Why *wouldn't* he think that he can convince her to break other rules?

This started out as a very hot thread, but it's increasingly becoming a slow motion train wreck. I know you're having fun right now, but I just don't see this one ending well. MAYBE the fact that he leaves in a few months will stop the inevitable, but at the rate y'all are going, I'm not convinced that will be soon enough.

Best wishes. Truly.

[w770]

So the conversation started off with an apologetic tone from Superman, saying all the right things, hoping that he didn’t make a mess of her marriage. Lana saw right through the façade and asked him whether he was trying to get “caught” the other night, and if he was serious about me coming home and seeing them in bed together. He admitted that he did have a fascination with having sex with a married woman and having the husband walk in on them, and likened it back to the married woman he fucked in California and how he would go out of the way to leave signs that she had been cheating on him. He enjoys the ego boost of having a married woman give into his seduction in addition to the rush that the inherent risk it carries. He said that he missed her over the last few days after becoming addicted to her and admitted that maybe he did try to take it too far as he could tell that there was a lot of love between myself and Lana. As planned, Lana didn’t give him much to go on and spent a lot of the first 15-20 minutes listening and letting him do most of the talking. After Superman had exhausted himself with self-reflection and atonement, Lana reassured him by making slight contact with his forearm and telling him that it was okay and that her marriage was going to be just fine. “In fact, I’ve sort of been reflecting the past few days too, and I want to keep having fun together.”

Now before she left to meet up with him, I told Lana that if the conversation goes into a place that we didn’t necessarily plan for, she’s free to riff. Taking that coupled with the fact that Superman had confessed a particular kink for bull tendencies with his story about the married woman in California, she took it upon herself to tell him that she was turned on by the idea of me watching them together. She tells me that the look on his face was akin to that of a lottery winner – suddenly the universe of possibilities was open to him and she could see the wave of excitement come over him. “Don’t get too excited yet big guy…” as she went over the boundaries, things that are considered deal breakers, and the fact that I have the last say and sole veto on any encounter. She went into the limits of the dirty talk, the humiliation, and how it might take a few times before I’m actually in the room watching. And as expected, he agreed to it all. After all, it’s Lana.

On their way back home, she sends me three emojis, but I’m out running errands, making it untenable to start stroking myself in my state of angst.

They eventually make it back to his place and as if the last two days of hiatus never happened, they picked up where they left off. He picked her up and planted a long kiss on her lips, telling her how much he missed her as she returned the sentiment as he carried her into his room and threw her onto his bed. He took off his shirt and joined Lana on the bed, their hands all over each other, her telling him how much she missed his body as he worked her shirt and bra off, eventually fondling and sucking on her perky breasts. She reminded him that she’s on her period so that her panties will be remaining on as he took her pants off, kissing and worshipping her legs that he had become obsessed with. “But I really want to suck that cock, baby.” As she’s telling me this, I can’t help but feel that tinge of insecurity, like a punch to the gut, as I felt like it wasn’t that long ago that she was wrapping her lips around my dick, easily putting my entire length in her mouth, compared with Superman’s massive unit that she can barely get her mouth around past the head let alone wrap her hand around his girth. He strips off the remainder of his clothing and positions himself over Lana so that his knees are to either side of her, while pinning her wrists against the headboard. Without the use of her arms, she’s unable to stroke his giant cock and instead resorts to kissing his shaft from base to tip, teasing him with her tongue until he works his length into her mouth. “Fuccckkkk Lana………… God I missed that mouth……..” After a few minutes, he eventually releases her hands and grabs the back of her head, slowly thrusting into her, fucking her mouth.

It keeps going until he loses control and explodes his load of warm cum into her mouth, which she swallows. “Lana…. I can’t move.” he tells her as he’s laying next to her, completely drained. They spend about another 30 minutes, lying in bed naked (almost naked for her), talking more about the arrangement. He talks about how he loves the idea of fucking her again in our bed while I watch as he carefully goes over the rules again, what constitutes an acceptable level of humiliation, and how excited he is. All of our schedules are a bit tenuous this weekend, but the plan is to touch base again before then so we can settle on a definitive date. But in all likelihood, it appears we’re on the onset of the next step.

If you dont mind, what were the boundaries, acceptable levels of humiliation, and hard stops that the told him?

Certain hard stops - (and I say this without any judgment as everyone has their things) include ordering me to do anything for him such as grabbing him a beer or putting on her clothing. Also ordering me to leave the room. Hard stop on slapping her across the face or spitting on her.

Boundaries - he can talk dirty to her and we understand that will sometimes include the use of certain words like slut. But if either one of us feel like it's going too far, then we'll let him know. Also if he tries to convince her to come over and she says no, we understand that it's part of any relationship dynamic for him to want up try and change her mind. However, if she ever says no followed up with "hubby says no." there will be no attempt on his part to change that.

Humiliation - this is the dynamic one and we're okay with letting figuring this one out as we go along.