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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by johnstevens555 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:40 am

w770 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:19 am
Chrislydi wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:00 am
It's great that you've managed such huge strides towards eroticising the whole humiliation aspect of the cuck process, it seems you're a natural with it being exactly what you really want. There can be an inevitable change in the relationship whether spoken or not, no matter how temporary the experience. It's also however ideal, especially if you're so suited to this lifestyle and adapt to your new role as the 'lesser' man (sexually I mean not in all other ways). How she will see you after this cucking and the changed mindset can't be easily undone even if unsaid, and maybe this is just as well if Lana wants other dominant lovers afterwards too. Things seem to be going very well indeed and it looks as if soon you will be loving your life as her very own cuckold. It may well be your future mission to find her a regular supply of dominant new men who can fully satisfy her and maybe even eventually a longer term partner too.

Chris
This is honestly frightening to me, as I've actively tried to resist anything that may have Lana lose respect for me. But I can take solace in the notion that hopefully it won't be respect that she loses for me, but rather she just sees me as the sexually lesser man, which is fine with me seeing as it's objectively true.

Update: She's just texted me 3 emojis and a message that she's in bed naked with her toy about to FaceTime with Shawn. The lump in my throat just dropped.
She will probably just learn to respect you in a different way.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Chrislydi » Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:06 am

w770 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:19 am
Chrislydi wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:00 am
It's great that you've managed such huge strides towards eroticising the whole humiliation aspect of the cuck process, it seems you're a natural with it being exactly what you really want. There can be an inevitable change in the relationship whether spoken or not, no matter how temporary the experience. It's also however ideal, especially if you're so suited to this lifestyle and adapt to your new role as the 'lesser' man (sexually I mean not in all other ways). How she will see you after this cucking and the changed mindset can't be easily undone even if unsaid, and maybe this is just as well if Lana wants other dominant lovers afterwards too. Things seem to be going very well indeed and it looks as if soon you will be loving your life as her very own cuckold. It may well be your future mission to find her a regular supply of dominant new men who can fully satisfy her and maybe even eventually a longer term partner too.

Chris
This is honestly frightening to me, as I've actively tried to resist anything that may have Lana lose respect for me. But I can take solace in the notion that hopefully it won't be respect that she loses for me, but rather she just sees me as the sexually lesser man, which is fine with me seeing as it's objectively true.

Update: She's just texted me 3 emojis and a message that she's in bed naked with her toy about to FaceTime with Shawn. The lump in my throat just dropped.
Exactly the highlighted bit, I really put in brackets only sexually - and it's not so much respect but that she will view you differently as not matching up and able to provide for her sexually in the same way others can. In most areas of life things are unchanged and she doesn't lose one jot of respect for you. It's as John says she will just see you in a different light and maybe not have as much sexual desire for you if she experiences something far better. Initially it can increase rather than decrease the frequency of sex but longer term her desires for what she can have might be the stronger.

As someone else commented on another thread, things can change sexually in her mind with the humiliation of the cuckold husband, but this doesn't affect her resect for him in ALL other areas of their relationship and might even make it stronger.

I asked if she had any idea why it was different (with me) and her answer... gutted me. She said that she's just not turned on by me any more. That over time the humiliation and things changed something in her bodily reaction to me that she just doesn't have that initial arousal. With another man she does so even before they are kissing, even on the ride to go see him, she's already wet and full of butterflies. With me, while she appreciated my attempts, and still loves me as a life partner/husband, she had to put in effort to try to feel in the mood, which didn't really work anymore because I was just "not for sex".


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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by desertsub » Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:07 am

w770 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:19 am

This is honestly frightening to me, as I've actively tried to resist anything that may have Lana lose respect for me. But I can take solace in the notion that hopefully it won't be respect that she loses for me, but rather she just sees me as the sexually lesser man, which is fine with me seeing as it's objectively true.
Or, she may see you as my wife does me. She says that she feels that I am stronger than most men because I can open up about my kinks and fetishes and I am willing to explore new things. She also feels that my being secure enough to allow her to be with other guys shows her that I am stronger than most guys.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by hiki » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:06 am

Do you know if Shawn recorded their Facetime call? I hate to be an alarmist, but it could basically be a Pam and Tommy style sex tape on the loose.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Wifesharing » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:01 pm

I hope the call went well

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by FadermanL20 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:39 pm

Best single word on this thread.

"Update"

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:53 am

Chrislydi wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:06 am
w770 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:19 am
Chrislydi wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:00 am
It's great that you've managed such huge strides towards eroticising the whole humiliation aspect of the cuck process, it seems you're a natural with it being exactly what you really want. There can be an inevitable change in the relationship whether spoken or not, no matter how temporary the experience. It's also however ideal, especially if you're so suited to this lifestyle and adapt to your new role as the 'lesser' man (sexually I mean not in all other ways). How she will see you after this cucking and the changed mindset can't be easily undone even if unsaid, and maybe this is just as well if Lana wants other dominant lovers afterwards too. Things seem to be going very well indeed and it looks as if soon you will be loving your life as her very own cuckold. It may well be your future mission to find her a regular supply of dominant new men who can fully satisfy her and maybe even eventually a longer term partner too.

Chris
This is honestly frightening to me, as I've actively tried to resist anything that may have Lana lose respect for me. But I can take solace in the notion that hopefully it won't be respect that she loses for me, but rather she just sees me as the sexually lesser man, which is fine with me seeing as it's objectively true.

Update: She's just texted me 3 emojis and a message that she's in bed naked with her toy about to FaceTime with Shawn. The lump in my throat just dropped.
Exactly the highlighted bit, I really put in brackets only sexually - and it's not so much respect but that she will view you differently as not matching up and able to provide for her sexually in the same way others can. In most areas of life things are unchanged and she doesn't lose one jot of respect for you. It's as John says she will just see you in a different light and maybe not have as much sexual desire for you if she experiences something far better. Initially it can increase rather than decrease the frequency of sex but longer term her desires for what she can have might be the stronger.

As someone else commented on another thread, things can change sexually in her mind with the humiliation of the cuckold husband, but this doesn't affect her resect for him in ALL other areas of their relationship and might even make it stronger.

I asked if she had any idea why it was different (with me) and her answer... gutted me. She said that she's just not turned on by me any more. That over time the humiliation and things changed something in her bodily reaction to me that she just doesn't have that initial arousal. With another man she does so even before they are kissing, even on the ride to go see him, she's already wet and full of butterflies. With me, while she appreciated my attempts, and still loves me as a life partner/husband, she had to put in effort to try to feel in the mood, which didn't really work anymore because I was just "not for sex".


Chris
I understand what you're saying and it's very much resonating with me. I think it's the current and impending change of our relationship that is getting me the most apprehensive as I feel that watching the act taking place in our bed of all places is so much of a next level step that I feel that it's similar to the moment Shawn first cucked me - the feeling of stepping off that cliff, not having the option of turning back, not just learning to accept but being forced to accept this new reality. I've always been good with change, but only on a personal level. This time, it involves Lana so the managing of the turbulence is a lot more difficult.
desertsub wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:07 am
w770 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:19 am

This is honestly frightening to me, as I've actively tried to resist anything that may have Lana lose respect for me. But I can take solace in the notion that hopefully it won't be respect that she loses for me, but rather she just sees me as the sexually lesser man, which is fine with me seeing as it's objectively true.
Or, she may see you as my wife does me. She says that she feels that I am stronger than most men because I can open up about my kinks and fetishes and I am willing to explore new things. She also feels that my being secure enough to allow her to be with other guys shows her that I am stronger than most guys.
I feel that after Shawn leaves for California and we have some real time to reflect, Lana will hopefully feel the same as your wife. I think time away from the new relationship energy and excitement that comes along with it will clear her head. I'm not saying that she's someone I don't recognize since this whole thing started, but I am noticing changes in small ways, such as a slight peppiness in her demeanor when she's doing mundane things like preparing dinner, a lightness in her mood, etc. I think overall it's been a net positive so far in our marriage.
hiki wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:06 am
Do you know if Shawn recorded their Facetime call? I hate to be an alarmist, but it could basically be a Pam and Tommy style sex tape on the loose.
I didn't even think of this and will mention it to her later today. Thanks!

Update on yesterday's call:

I had to work really late last night (clients kept emailing me with more requests as I tried to leave, ultimately keeping me later and later) which caused me to text Lana repeatedly that I'll be back at the hotel later than previously thought. I told her to order dinner without me and apologized. Finally around 2300 (11pm) I get back to the hotel assuming she had fallen asleep as I didn't get a text back from her in a while, and I hear the unmistakable sounds of her moaning. I walk into the bedroom and see her on the bed, legs spread, rubbing her clit while her phone was clearly aimed at her pussy. I can hear through the speaker of her phone Shawn moaning, "fuck Lana.... You're so fucking hot..." She doesn't skip a beat when she sees me and instead moans even louder, telling him that she's about to cum again, and also telling him that she wants to see him cum all over his abs. Their simultaneous chorus of moaning for each other hits me like a truck as I'm instantly hard, stripping off my clothes, and standing in the doorway, stroking myself.

They finish up their call as Lana motions for me to join her in the bed. Now, it's been asked of some posts here before, but I've never really been interested in the idea of eating her pussy after he's cum in her. But some people have informed me of their experiences in this area and how it causes women to have incredibly powerful orgasms when this happens, even if it's through role play. So I immediately position my face between her legs which I drape over my shoulders and tease her with the tip of my tongue, causing her to scream out in an exceedingly loud and almost violent way as she grabs the back of my head with both of her hands and pushes my face in close. "Oh my Godddddddddddddddd!!!!!"

It was the fastest I've ever made her cum and it seemed to last for a full minute. After her orgasm subsides, and she's trying her best to catch her breath, she pulls my face off of her pussy and tells me to fuck her while also admitting how amazing that felt. It's not sweet romantic love making this time, rather, I'm pounding her as hard as I can, telling her how hot it was coming back and seeing her "with" him. I don't last long, maybe a minute? Maybe two. But as I'm getting close, she tells me how hard Shawn makes her cum, causing me to lose it and explode into her.

We talked afterwards as we usually do after sex and I told her how I thought it was really hot that she was "with" him without texting me the emojis. It had completely slipped her mind and she apologized but said that she's willing to "cheat" on me like that again if that's what turns me on.

Another long day today for the both of us. Plus we have to pack up our things and check out of the hotel tomorrow. The plan is to have a few days of being a sweet romantic couple and talk about any other concerns we might have before this weekend. I'm nervous but in a good way, I suppose.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by hubudig2 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:10 am

Wow! I'm glad you both experienced what I suggested you might when you went down on her.
I would've felt a little bad if you had gone the whole way, got a mouthful of his cum and she didn't like it or react how I said lol.
Has it inspired you to want to try it for real?
How was it for you? Did it feel good to eat her cheating pussy so soon after she'd been offering it to Shawn?

So was that the second time she'd facetimed him that day? What prompted the second time?
Was the decision that she will deliberately "cheat" again?
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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:25 am

hubudig2 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:10 am
Wow! I'm glad you both experienced what I suggested you might when you went down on her.
I would've felt a little bad if you had gone the whole way, got a mouthful of his cum and she didn't like it or react how I said lol.
Has it inspired you to want to try it for real?
How was it for you? Did it feel good to eat her cheating pussy so soon after she'd been offering it to Shawn?

So was that the second time she'd facetimed him that day? What prompted the second time?
Was the decision that she will deliberately "cheat" again?
No, you were 100% right. She went wild. I'm still on the fence about doing it for real, but her strong orgasm definitely makes me lean in favor of doing it. As far as how it felt for me, it was almost like another layer of humiliation, so I'm still in the newness of that feeling right now, which makes it a bit hard to process objectively how I'll feel about it when things settle. Every baby step we're taking is like a new normal that I'm adjusting to, but the encouraging part is that even though each step is colored by emotions that are typically seen as negative (humiliation, angst, apprehension, nervousness), I'm finding that it's not as bad and earth shattering as I might have previously assumed.

As far as what prompted the second FaceTime, she responded to a text where he was asking about this weekend and our schedules. She mentioned that she was ordering dinner without me, which lead to him asking if she wanted to have "a little fun."

We're still exploring the idea of her "cheating" again and if that's a road we want to go down, even if it's just fantasy. Although I did find it hot, it might be confusing where the boundaries are of her sneaking off to spread her legs for Shawn without me knowing.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by trecital » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:57 am

I presume Lana cut the call on her phone? Or did she 'accidentally' let Shawn watch you going down on her?
Or at least listen in.....😁

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:18 am

trecital wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:57 am
I presume Lana cut the call on her phone? Or did she 'accidentally' let Shawn watch you going down on her?
Or at least listen in.....😁
You're right, she ended the call. I didn't even think about keeping him on the line to hear, but it's an intriguing thought.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by CandA » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:47 am

My amateur situational assessment:

It doesn’t appear the break of going into the city for the week did much to alter the obsession, preoccupation or momentum.

I’d suggest that if you’re not 100% comfortable with a life of Lana’s unshakable non-monagamy, her ongoing/serial submission to outside dominant men and an emerging dominance of and reduced passion for you.. then it’s time to reclaim your marriage and redirect its trajectory to a different long-term future.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:29 am

CandA wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:47 am
My amateur situational assessment:

It doesn’t appear the break of going into the city for the week did much to alter the obsession, preoccupation or momentum.

I’d suggest that if you’re not 100% comfortable with a life of Lana’s unshakable non-monagamy, her ongoing/serial submission to outside dominant men and an emerging dominance of and reduced passion for you.. then it’s time to reclaim your marriage and redirect its trajectory to a different long-term future.
Well the week in the city was really just to slow the pace of our progression to see if we felt the same way after some time about moving forward, not necessarily to invert any of her desire to be with him. And I don't feel as if the passion has faded at all between Lana and myself. We're very open with our feelings with each other and we've both confirmed that we feel closer to each other more than ever. Additionally, I feel that the premise of your statement isn't entirely accurate in that it assumes that having this sort of arrangement is in opposition to a long term future. I feel that it is possible so long as communication is present, among other factors.

As always, I appreciate your advice.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by eater » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:49 am

the hotness continues. making her cum almost immediately after she's been with him is incredibly hot.

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Unread post by Aureus » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:31 am

You should think about getting her some lingerie that she will only wear for him. Or on plus some kinky toys like buttplugs also only to be used for him. Or on one of their video calls.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:35 am

eater wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:49 am
the hotness continues. making her cum almost immediately after she's been with him is incredibly hot.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I'll be able to do the real thing or not yet. But as with this entire experience, it's hard if not impossible to anticipate how I'll feel about something until I'm there.
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Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:31 am
You should think about getting her some lingerie that she will only wear for him. Or on plus some kinky toys like buttplugs also only to be used for him. Or on one of their video calls.
The idea has been discussed about lingerie for just him and I think the closest it'll come will be her Christmas gift which is a sexy short red plaid skirt and matching Santa hat that she's excited to being taken from behind while wearing.

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Unread post by gulfcpl » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:41 am

I agree that the current fun you’re having has nothing to do with a long term future. You have a solid base. Some don’t, and that’s a cause for concern. Your communication is good and the acceptance of your somewhat new role is evolving. When a couple begins this journey, their marriage is never the same. Done right, it’s even better. I truly believe at this point you’re both doing it right.

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Unread post by william70 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:01 am

If you looked into a crystal ball, and saw a future where you and Lana were no longer together, would you continue to fallow your cock head into this lifestyle? Would Lana?

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:09 am

gulfcpl wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:41 am
I agree that the current fun you’re having has nothing to do with a long term future. You have a solid base. Some don’t, and that’s a cause for concern. Your communication is good and the acceptance of your somewhat new role is evolving. When a couple begins this journey, their marriage is never the same. Done right, it’s even better. I truly believe at this point you’re both doing it right.
Thank you. I feel that as long as we're constantly communicating, we're safe from doing some type of irreparable harm to the marriage.
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Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:01 am
If you looked into a crystal ball, and saw a future where you and Lana were no longer together, would you continue to fallow your cock head into this lifestyle? Would Lana?
No. If that were the case, we would both decide to go back to role playing, but our marriage is our top priority and it's a hard stop if anything were to threaten that.

Slight Update: Shawn is having a Christmas party in about a week and a half and invited us. Everyone there will know that he's fucked/fucking her. This sort of setting is yet another level of humiliation that I'm going to have to really think over and process before I agree to going. And yet... I'm hard just thinking about it. Sometimes it's hard for me to admit it, because in some ways, I'm ashamed that I'm turned on by the humiliation. But Lana has been incredible in her reassurance that it's okay and she will gladly lean into it if I'm ready.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by eater » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:17 am

you have to go. the humiliation may be off the charts but none of these people mean anything to you so it should not affect your real life.

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Unread post by gulfcpl » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:28 am

eater wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:17 am
you have to go. the humiliation may be off the charts but none of these people mean anything to you so it should not affect your real life.
That could really be hot. Lana would be loving it too. Talk about angst. The sexual tension between them during the party would be mind boggling.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by airhorn » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:33 am

w770 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:09 am
Slight Update: Shawn is having a Christmas party in about a week and a half and invited us. Everyone there will know that he's fucked/fucking her. This sort of setting is yet another level of humiliation that I'm going to have to really think over and process before I agree to going. And yet... I'm hard just thinking about it. Sometimes it's hard for me to admit it, because in some ways, I'm ashamed that I'm turned on by the humiliation. But Lana has been incredible in her reassurance that it's okay and she will gladly lean into it if I'm ready.
They know he's fucking her, but do they know that you know?

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by chastity_boi » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:43 am

oh my god. The party sounds incredible. Pretty out there but definitely something that you should consider. It's one of those situations that don't come along that often but, my god, the feelings it will instill when you're there and what it will evoke when you look back on it will be absolutely priceless.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Dharmadude » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:02 am

You say everyone there knows he is fucking her so, yes, the angst would be off the charts. What about if they are flirting, touching each other the whole night? You know there will be some, maybe a lot, of this. He loves to stroke his ego and doing this to a hot, married gal right in front of her husband is a huge ego boost.

What about when they go into the bedroom and close the door? Everyone, including you, will know they are fucking, and then you all will hear it. Every one of his friends will be sitting there hard as a rock thinking how lucky he is and how much they want to fuck her too. Are you ready for that?

Unless they bring their girlfriends in which case they will sit there like, "What? I don't hear anything....."

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Unread post by gulfcpl » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:11 am

Dharmadude wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:02 am
You say everyone there knows he is fucking her so, yes, the angst would be off the charts. What about if they are flirting, touching each other the whole night? You know there will be some, maybe a lot, of this. He loves to stroke his ego and doing this to a hot, married gal right in front of her husband is a huge ego boost.

What about when they go into the bedroom and close the door? Everyone, including you, will know they are fucking, and then you all will hear it. Every one of his friends will be sitting there hard as a rock thinking how lucky he is and how much they want to fuck her too. Are you ready for that?

Unless they bring their girlfriends in which case they will sit there like, "What? I don't hear anything....."
That last line is funny.

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