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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:10 am

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Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:32 am
I hope you understand that I mean no disrespect toward you or Lana in any way by bringing up things (multiple men) that she has expressed reservations about in the past. In fact, I think it is beautiful how each of you is willing to let the other one explore and, at the same time, give the other what they need. This is, to me, the very definition of love and it is captivating. I have followed your thread from the beginning and feel like I "know" you both having watched as your explore this lifestyle.

As you know there are many different paths one can follow on this journey and one of them is the Dominant/sub dynamic. This is something my wife and I have maintained from the beginning of our relationship and, even if we stray from that path for awhile as we evolve, we always come back to it as that is what we both need. I am not going to derail the thread with my thoughts on that. I say it to point out that I am not a stranger to this dynamic and can speak from experience as to what is gained/given.

This whirlwind encounter has unlocked so many aspects both of you have suppressed over the years (her need to be submissive and your need for humiliation are probably the most surprising for you both). The time limit on it spurred things on at a faster pace than normal and maybe even faster than should be advised. But your communication and open-mindedness has been amazing and it's doesn't appear like there are any long term red flag effects. So why not? Enjoy yourself.

IMO everything has been building to this point ever since she "allowed" the first zoom call. She acknowledged her submissiveness and gave his dominance free reign. It was only a matter of time until he pushed it a bit further. The only thing in doubt was, is he a sharer or a possessor? He has traits of both so that was still a mystery. We now know he is a sharer, so Lana will be shared. He tested the waters at the party by telling Lana to expose herself to Eric.

It's one thing to do this on video but it is another entirely to do this when a "strange" man is in the room (and while she is sitting there with his cock in her pussy). Eric could then look wherever he chooses. He could see all of her parts and focus his gaze. She had to feel his lust through that gaze. No doubt even more so when they continued fucking and she orgasmed all over his cock. He watched her through all of this.

I absolutely think you should do this suggested encounter, and I suspect you will. I think you both need it. I don't understand the humiliation aspect, from either direction. I have no interest in giving or receiving that. But you do "need" it and we know superman (sorry still can't give him a proper name nor a capitalization) is more than happy to provide that. Eric, with his comments on the zoom call, shows that he enjoys this as well. Will he be as vocal or in your face as superman? Maybe, maybe not.

Either way, it will de difficult for you at first. Double the humiliation. If you need to then leave the room for a few minutes then come back. They will, no doubt, still be pleasuring her so you will have time for a few breaks if needed. I would choose to look at things from a different perspective. Two young studs, with big cocks, fucking my wife? Sure, okay. But if I looked at her face and saw a look of complete ecstatic bliss? Most definitely. Sign me up. No matter how big or skilled I, or any other man, am there is no way to give her that with just one cock. Add to that in the back of her psyche the total submission that they can do whatever they choose and her orgasms will be so far off the charts that it no longer even exists. She will be completely and totally in sub space for this scene and might not even realize you are there. I envy you being able to watch this. It may be difficult for you but you are giving your love what she needs. It will be beautiful.

I hope Eric fulfills her need for a Dom and his cock is up to the task. No doubt it will be hard and willing but superman's was otherworldly. Maybe part of that was just the newness and excitement. But he was also massive and his personality struck that chord that she needed at that time. If Eric is suitable then she will not need to look for a partner and it will be a very smooth transition from one to the next. I don't see Lana going back to vanilla after having had her mind blown with this dynamic, and repressed desires fulfilled, unless her Dom fails her.

It will be interesting to follow as they begin their dynamic. Will he too share her with his friends? Or only when superman visits? I wonder of superman will still try to control things from California? He doesn't seem like a fade into the background type.

Again, I mean no disrespect to either of you. I am envious as my wife and I have strayed a bit from this path. I hoe we can reconnect with it soon.
Yeah, I think how things will play out after Shawn leaves will be evident by watching the chemistry between Lana and Eric if and when they fuck. She's told me that she's had sex with guys that had pretty big cocks but there was no real connection between them and the sex ultimately was unsatisfying. Conversely, with me, I have the body but not the giant cock that she craves and it's all supplemented with our emotional connection. I think you're right that Shawn had the benefit of perfect timing to go along with all of his attributes, and if Eric is able to prove his worth as a lover, he may become a steady part of our ongoing experience as sexually, I know that her body is now addicted to the feelings that a giant bare cock can do to her that I'll never be able to do.

Another point you touched on was our needs - Lana's for being dominated and my own for humiliation. I feel like you're right about this, but I'm just curious if there's an end point. I mean, I'm not going to let it get to the point where I'm wearing one of those cage things or women's clothes, and ultimately, these are all subjective boundaries, so I suppose I won't know where the limit is until I'm there. Same for Lana. She apparently is really turned on by being submissive to Shawn, to the point where she's willing to have a guy watching her orgasm and a group of guys see her naked, but I wonder when she'll reach her own limit on these acts. I guess being dominated by two young guys on your marital bed, and also watching your wife being taken by two young guys sounds close to whatever limits we might have. But as always, we'll see.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by parmaham55 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:11 am

Thanks for the fantastic and fullsome update. Perfect to see Lana taking the initiative with Shawn about the weekend and seeking agreement about Eric fucking her. She’s clearly in charge of her pussy, even though Shawn acting as dom.

One more question, if you have time.. we didn’t quite get the full zoom conversations amongst his friends. Did these happen when she was under the table? Did they know at this point that she was there? Any more on what they said about her?

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:38 am

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Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:11 am
Thanks for the fantastic and fullsome update. Perfect to see Lana taking the initiative with Shawn about the weekend and seeking agreement about Eric fucking her. She’s clearly in charge of her pussy, even though Shawn acting as dom.

One more question, if you have time.. we didn’t quite get the full zoom conversations amongst his friends. Did these happen when she was under the table? Did they know at this point that she was there? Any more on what they said about her?
Oh right, I forgot to update on that. She was telling me about the zoom conversation while we were reclaiming last night. Before I get into what was said, I'll answer your questions. The entire conversation about the party and the subsequent encounter with Shawn and Eric all took place while she was under the desk with Shawn's cock in her mouth, so they were all unaware she was there.

As far as the other things that were said before she came up to sit on Shawn's lap:
- Shawn told his friends about how she got red lipstick on his cock while the party was taking place and how she kissed me with his cum on her lips
- Basically every guy on the call and who was at the party wanted to fuck Lana and are extremely jealous of Shawn's Christmas gift
- Eric confirmed to the group that Lana gave him the best blowjob of his life and it's not even a close. He said that he never thought a blowjob could feel that amazing.
- Eric also noted how hot it was watching Shawn force Lana to confess all the ways that I can't satisfy her sexually
- The male half of the couple that stayed over said how him and his girlfriend have had nonstop sex since the party as they talked about how hot they thought what was happening one room over was and they're now entertaining the idea of introducing another person into the bedroom
- Shawn was asked about the married woman he had been fucking in California and to compare her to Lana, to which he said it wasn't a close comparison as Lana is far and away "a better fuck" than her.
- One of the guys remarked on how it's crazy how I'm okay with Shawn fucking Lana, to which Shawn said, "well I would still be fucking her even if he wasn't okay with it." He went onto describe the first time he came over and fucked her on our kitchen counter and also their late night dates that he doesn't think I know about.

That's all that I can remember now about what she told me. But after she swallowed his cum and he sat her down on his lap, everyone said hi to her, all vying for her attention. She tried covering up for a bit but then eventually she felt a little more at ease and removed her hands from her breasts, followed up by Shawn sucking on one of them until he ended the call, telling his friends he needed to tend to her.

I asked her if she liked showing her naked body to a bunch of young guys as we were reclaiming which got her to moan noticeably louder, confessing that she loved it. She told me to cum as she could hear that I was close after a minute of thrusting, and I exploded inside of her as we both kissed and told each other how in love we were with the other.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by parmaham55 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:50 am

That is the hottest post you've posted! OMG. That is the hottest post ever. What a wife!

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Dharmadude » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:18 am

w770 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:10 am


Yeah, I think how things will play out after Shawn leaves will be evident by watching the chemistry between Lana and Eric if and when they fuck. She's told me that she's had sex with guys that had pretty big cocks but there was no real connection between them and the sex ultimately was unsatisfying. Conversely, with me, I have the body but not the giant cock that she craves and it's all supplemented with our emotional connection. I think you're right that Shawn had the benefit of perfect timing to go along with all of his attributes, and if Eric is able to prove his worth as a lover, he may become a steady part of our ongoing experience as sexually, I know that her body is now addicted to the feelings that a giant bare cock can do to her that I'll never be able to do.

Another point you touched on was our needs - Lana's for being dominated and my own for humiliation. I feel like you're right about this, but I'm just curious if there's an end point. I mean, I'm not going to let it get to the point where I'm wearing one of those cage things or women's clothes, and ultimately, these are all subjective boundaries, so I suppose I won't know where the limit is until I'm there. Same for Lana. She apparently is really turned on by being submissive to Shawn, to the point where she's willing to have a guy watching her orgasm and a group of guys see her naked, but I wonder when she'll reach her own limit on these acts. I guess being dominated by two young guys on your marital bed, and also watching your wife being taken by two young guys sounds close to whatever limits we might have. But as always, we'll see.
This is true. You may never know why exactly he pushed all of those buttons. But that's okay, isn't it? Point is they were pushed and this exciting journey began. One thing I have realized as I got older, yes, younger guys are bigger, harder, more virile than I am and all that, but every man will fuck a woman differently. Some it's more thrust, touching, stretching, whatever, but it's all physical. You, and me in my case, get that emotional connection while we are with her. They can't match that. So it will be different. Besides, I have a few tricks those whippersnappers haven't learned yet, lol.


To answer your second point, I think you answered it yourself. Whatever point is too much is too much. Maybe for her two is the end point. She could decide to try even more at the same time, or not. Same with you. You don't have to wear a cage. Many on here love it. Myself, I wouldn't, same as I don't enjoy humiliation, denial, or degradation. It's whatever you want. To me, this aspect is not an all or nothing sort of thing. You get to pick what you want, and have that loving partner to help you explore.

I guess what I am saying is explore until you get to that point that you're like, "No, don't want to do that." Not all situations can be thought of beforehand so you may not know a limit until you are there. If it gets there, then there is no shame in saying, no not that.

I have never felt shame in exploration (yes I do understand that shame and humiliation are synonymous but I think you get the point). I am the type that feels like I won't know if I will enjoy it until I do it. So I have approached several things with that mindset. Some I had been curious about for a long time, so I did them. There are a few certain things I find gross or disgusting and do not want to experience them, lol. Fortunately, like you, I have a partner that is willing to explore with me. We don't have to hide our desires or sneak around behind the other's back. I have no desire to live that life a second time.

You both have discussed limits beforehand and know each other's. To be more specific, what are the soft limits, and what are the hard ones. I'll use anal as an example (but it could be bondage, impact play, whatever). If Lana were to say, "Well, I don't know. Maybe I'd be okay with it. It just depends" That's soft limit. If someone put their thumb in her ass and she was okay with it and enjoying it, let it play out. Maybe she balks when it's a cock instead of a thumb, maybe not. If she says, "Flat out. No way. If someone sticks a dick in my ass, I will cut it off!" That's a pretty clear hard limit. It is up to the Dom to push the soft and never go past the hard. The same thing goes for you and your limits.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and conversely Lana's. I find the psychological part as fascinating as the sex is hot.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by jasmineb87 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:28 am

I think it’s very clear how great of a connection you and Lana have in all this. You’re great at communicating with each other, and she’s amazing at pushing the right buttons on you. I think your reconnection is amazing and I’ll bet powerful.
I know that however you proceed with this post Shawn, it will be considered and be the best for your marriage. I still find it crazy at how she’s absolutely thrown herself all in to this so quickly after so long of this being an outright ‘no’
Did she do any research on the HW lifestyle and how to push your buttons or did she just instinctively know?
Even the fact she’s asked Shawn about Eric having her (Shawn’s) pussy is incredibly hot, and shows that she’s open to other dicks in there.
Have you outright asked Lana where her boundaries would lie? I just worry that she might just say yes to everything to appease you, and push herself too far. I’m glad you’ve set yourself some clear boundaries, but have so far not needed to call a halt to proceedings. I genuinely feel that you two are so great with this, you could have a situation where Shawn and/or Eric have her on the borderline of orgasm, and you could “banana” out of there, and she would stop right there and then.
I’m pretty sure we all want something to continue post Shawn, but that’s because we all love reading about Lana

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Unread post by gulfcpl » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:44 am

You mentioned that you don’t yet know of the end of your limits. None of us really know that until we’re there. Most couples set limits and then adjust them accordingly. You’ll both be surprised what your limits really are. You two are the only ones that can answer that and you won’t know until the time comes. One thing always leads to another. You already have a couple of hard stops that you won’t entertain but there are plenty of other potential pleasures that will present themselves in the future.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:22 am

Dharmadude wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:18 am


Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and conversely Lana's. I find the psychological part as fascinating as the sex is hot.
I agree with this sentiment a lot. I used to tell Lana that intimacy was a giant turn on for me, and it might be a part of why I cum so fast in the missionary position, because in a lot of ways, it does seem like the most intimate.
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Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:44 am
You mentioned that you don’t yet know of the end of your limits. None of us really know that until we’re there. Most couples set limits and then adjust them accordingly. You’ll both be surprised what your limits really are. You two are the only ones that can answer that and you won’t know until the time comes. One thing always leads to another. You already have a couple of hard stops that you won’t entertain but there are plenty of other potential pleasures that will present themselves in the future.
Yeah, so far, we've gone past the limits that we initially set a few times and it hasn't ended our world in any way. In fact, the response has been to keep pushing further. So maybe the idea of having limits is really just there to serve as a way to mentally comfort us that we're taking baby steps, but with the knowledge that disregarding them is possible if not likely.
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Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:28 am
I think it’s very clear how great of a connection you and Lana have in all this. You’re great at communicating with each other, and she’s amazing at pushing the right buttons on you. I think your reconnection is amazing and I’ll bet powerful.
I know that however you proceed with this post Shawn, it will be considered and be the best for your marriage. I still find it crazy at how she’s absolutely thrown herself all in to this so quickly after so long of this being an outright ‘no’
Did she do any research on the HW lifestyle and how to push your buttons or did she just instinctively know?
Even the fact she’s asked Shawn about Eric having her (Shawn’s) pussy is incredibly hot, and shows that she’s open to other dicks in there.
Have you outright asked Lana where her boundaries would lie? I just worry that she might just say yes to everything to appease you, and push herself too far. I’m glad you’ve set yourself some clear boundaries, but have so far not needed to call a halt to proceedings. I genuinely feel that you two are so great with this, you could have a situation where Shawn and/or Eric have her on the borderline of orgasm, and you could “banana” out of there, and she would stop right there and then.
I’m pretty sure we all want something to continue post Shawn, but that’s because we all love reading about Lana
Well when I first got into the fascination of seeing her with another guy, she had a million questions about why and what caused it, etc. I sent her some research anywhere from scientific literature to less academic resources explaining what I thought was going on, so I think she really got a sense of what would turn me on when it comes to the experience. It also helps a lot that Shawn seems like a natural in amplifying what he senses as a huge turn on her for as a cheating wife.

I honestly think that she's going to opt for a break of sorts when Shawn leaves for California as this last month has felt like a mental and emotional rush as much as it's been physically, so I think she'll appreciate the pause and chance to come up for air.

Update: Shawn told Eric to get tested.

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Unread post by gulfcpl » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:30 am

There ya have it.

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Unread post by gulfcpl » Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:07 am

It looks like Shawn will allow Eric to be with her.

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Unread post by parmaham55 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:16 am

w770, you wrote: “She texted Shawn earlier and asked about how he feels about Eric fucking her and he said, "It's fine as long as he and hubby knows it's my pussy.””
This interaction encapsulates your entire journey so far, and your weekend and the months ahead:
- Lana wants Eric too, she’s on a roll now. How far has she come in little over a month!!
- She knows she needs permission from Shawn, so she knows he owns her pussy, not you. To text to ask permission in advance, that’s amazing.
- Shawn knows that you know about all of it, and is control of that too.
- You are now perfectly and deliciously humiliated. Embrace it, you have us all envious. Be there. If it gets too difficult, take the corgis out for a short walk.

I can imagine a couple of scenarios when Shawn is in CA:
- Lana texts him each time for permission to share his pussy, either with Eric or anyone else, even you. She may play this with him as a game but imagine it real. One morning, she denies you saying: ‘oh let me check with Shawn first .. oh no, sorry, he’s three hours behind, I can’t wake him up, you’ll have to wait.’
- The group Zoom. Him in CA, Lana alone with you watching from behind the camera. She teases and exposes to get him off…and others including you.
- The group Zoom. Him in CA, her with Eric, both of them performing to Shawn’s dominance, as he decides whether her mouth or his pussy gets shared on the call.

So Shawn has told Lana that he's told Eric to get tested. This level of planning and control is off the scale. The weekend is on.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:49 am

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Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:16 am
w770, you wrote: “She texted Shawn earlier and asked about how he feels about Eric fucking her and he said, "It's fine as long as he and hubby knows it's my pussy.””
This interaction encapsulates your entire journey so far, and your weekend and the months ahead:
- Lana wants Eric too, she’s on a roll now. How far has she come in little over a month!!
- She knows she needs permission from Shawn, so she knows he owns her pussy, not you. To text to ask permission in advance, that’s amazing.
- Shawn knows that you know about all of it, and is control of that too.
- You are now perfectly and deliciously humiliated. Embrace it, you have us all envious. Be there. If it gets too difficult, take the corgis out for a short walk.

I can imagine a couple of scenarios when Shawn is in CA:
- Lana texts him each time for permission to share his pussy, either with Eric or anyone else, even you. She may play this with him as a game but imagine it real. One morning, she denies you saying: ‘oh let me check with Shawn first .. oh no, sorry, he’s three hours behind, I can’t wake him up, you’ll have to wait.’
- The group Zoom. Him in CA, Lana alone with you watching from behind the camera. She teases and exposes to get him off…and others including you.
- The group Zoom. Him in CA, her with Eric, both of them performing to Shawn’s dominance, as he decides whether her mouth or his pussy gets shared on the call.

So Shawn has told Lana that he's told Eric to get tested. This level of planning and control is off the scale. The weekend is on.
She really does want Eric, and although she's said to me that it won't go that far if I want to keep it to just Shawn, I feel like I'm too far into this mentally now to turn back. Plus, as I've said earlier in another post, every time I think about setting up a boundary and we happen to go beyond it, it's not like our world ended and it threw us into some kind of hellscape. In fact, the only thing that going beyond our limits has done has reset what we previously thought we wanted. So to that effect, I say bring it on, Eric and Shawn - fuck my sweet angel on our marital bed and make me watch you guys do to her what I know I can't and make her scream it.

I'm going to save your post suggestions for our after-Shawn reality and see what clicks with us whether it's getting his permission to make love or even more.

Update: Eric said that he will be getting tested tomorrow and will send the login credentials to the results portal as soon as he gets them. It looks like this year is coming to an end (or the start of 2023) in the biggest way for us. After she sees the test results, Lana will get on a zoom with Shawn and Eric and go over the boundaries of what is acceptable humiliation, the non-interaction rules with me, and other such limits she wants to set (I don't think I've mentioned before that another hard stop for me is any sort of slapping of Lana across her face or choking her in any way. It's just something I won't bend on, so there's no point in debating it. If it happens, the entire experience will be considered over and they will be forced to leave). Lana has also mentioned the idea of denying me sex from here until after Shawn and Eric have had her, but allowing Shawn to have her pussy on a late night date or two as she can't go that long without his cock. And to think, just a month or so ago, we were just noticing Shawn walking around our building.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Dharmadude » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:10 am

You have made a lot of hot posts on here but this one is scorching hot!! Glad that she will be getting the pleasure she deserves. And, no, she cannot go that long without his cock, and she shouldn't have to when it's right there.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Aureus » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am

Are you considering DVP or DP for the upcoming threesome?

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by william70 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am

I don't see the Shawn Eric dynamic happening. I can see a sort of dom/sub between two men in a work type situation. Where ones job depends on obeying the supervisor to keep his job, but not a friendship. IMHO there's something fishy going on here. Even if one man has something he's holding over another man's head, their not friends. It sounds to me that Eric is more than capable to get his own women. I specifically can not see Eric being submissive to Shawn over a zoom call. A friend can ask a friend especially in this situation if he can fuck his girl friend after all ready receiving a bj from her. I don't see Eric taking instructions from shawn. I don't see a relationship between Lana/Eric based on Lana having to get shawn's permission. In all reality I don't see it happening with any of his friends. Any relationships she may want with any of these "friends" of shawn will be without his knowledge. This will all depend on whether or not Lana will continue to play this role with shawn.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:05 pm

Aureus wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am
Are you considering DVP or DP for the upcoming threesome?
Sorry, not familiar with the terms DVP and DP. I think DP is double penetration?
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Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am
I don't see the Shawn Eric dynamic happening. I can see a sort of dom/sub between two men in a work type situation. Where ones job depends on obeying the supervisor to keep his job, but not a friendship. IMHO there's something fishy going on here. Even if one man has something he's holding over another man's head, their not friends. It sounds to me that Eric is more than capable to get his own women. I specifically can not see Eric being submissive to Shawn over a zoom call. A friend can ask a friend especially in this situation if he can fuck his girl friend after all ready receiving a bj from her. I don't see Eric taking instructions from shawn. I don't see a relationship between Lana/Eric based on Lana having to get shawn's permission. In all reality I don't see it happening with any of his friends. Any relationships she may want with any of these "friends" of shawn will be without his knowledge. This will all depend on whether or not Lana will continue to play this role with shawn.
Well, I got to see them interact with each other a bit on Saturday night and they seemed to be like any two guys that are competitive buddies. I have friends like that where we're competitive with each other with sports or physical accomplishments like half/full marathon times, but it's all in good fun. However, I've never shared a girl with one of my friends, so I don't know how that changes the dynamic. I didn't get the sense that Eric was submissive to Shawn either, but Shawn could have said "it's his pussy" to Eric in a buddy/buddy way, where it's like trash talking but nothing is meant in seriousness. I guess I'll be able to judge for myself this weekend.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by mundyman » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:20 pm

w770 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:05 pm
Aureus wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am
Are you considering DVP or DP for the upcoming threesome?
Sorry, not familiar with the terms DVP and DP. I think DP is double penetration?
william70 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am
I don't see the Shawn Eric dynamic happening. I can see a sort of dom/sub between two men in a work type situation. Where ones job depends on obeying the supervisor to keep his job, but not a friendship. IMHO there's something fishy going on here. Even if one man has something he's holding over another man's head, their not friends. It sounds to me that Eric is more than capable to get his own women. I specifically can not see Eric being submissive to Shawn over a zoom call. A friend can ask a friend especially in this situation if he can fuck his girl friend after all ready receiving a bj from her. I don't see Eric taking instructions from shawn. I don't see a relationship between Lana/Eric based on Lana having to get shawn's permission. In all reality I don't see it happening with any of his friends. Any relationships she may want with any of these "friends" of shawn will be without his knowledge. This will all depend on whether or not Lana will continue to play this role with shawn.
Well, I got to see them interact with each other a bit on Saturday night and they seemed to be like any two guys that are competitive buddies. I have friends like that where we're competitive with each other with sports or physical accomplishments like half/full marathon times, but it's all in good fun. However, I've never shared a girl with one of my friends, so I don't know how that changes the dynamic. I didn't get the sense that Eric was submissive to Shawn either, but Shawn could have said "it's his pussy" to Eric in a buddy/buddy way, where it's like trash talking but nothing is meant in seriousness. I guess I'll be able to judge for myself this weekend.
DP- double penetration. Any combination of two of the three holes. Could be oral-pussy or oral-anal or my favorite pussy-anal.

DVP- double vaginal penetration. Two cocks in her pussy at the same time.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:30 pm

mundyman wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:20 pm
w770 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:05 pm
Aureus wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am
Are you considering DVP or DP for the upcoming threesome?
Sorry, not familiar with the terms DVP and DP. I think DP is double penetration?
william70 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:25 am
I don't see the Shawn Eric dynamic happening. I can see a sort of dom/sub between two men in a work type situation. Where ones job depends on obeying the supervisor to keep his job, but not a friendship. IMHO there's something fishy going on here. Even if one man has something he's holding over another man's head, their not friends. It sounds to me that Eric is more than capable to get his own women. I specifically can not see Eric being submissive to Shawn over a zoom call. A friend can ask a friend especially in this situation if he can fuck his girl friend after all ready receiving a bj from her. I don't see Eric taking instructions from shawn. I don't see a relationship between Lana/Eric based on Lana having to get shawn's permission. In all reality I don't see it happening with any of his friends. Any relationships she may want with any of these "friends" of shawn will be without his knowledge. This will all depend on whether or not Lana will continue to play this role with shawn.
Well, I got to see them interact with each other a bit on Saturday night and they seemed to be like any two guys that are competitive buddies. I have friends like that where we're competitive with each other with sports or physical accomplishments like half/full marathon times, but it's all in good fun. However, I've never shared a girl with one of my friends, so I don't know how that changes the dynamic. I didn't get the sense that Eric was submissive to Shawn either, but Shawn could have said "it's his pussy" to Eric in a buddy/buddy way, where it's like trash talking but nothing is meant in seriousness. I guess I'll be able to judge for myself this weekend.
DP- double penetration. Any combination of two of the three holes. Could be oral-pussy or oral-anal or my favorite pussy-anal.

DVP- double vaginal penetration. Two cocks in her pussy at the same time.
Oh gotcha. Hmm. I don't really know. I haven't really talked to Lana about anal, and as far as I know, she's still against it, but Shawn does seem to have an influence over her to get her to do things she previously was adamant against so we'll see. She's never had a threesome before so I don't know what she'll be willing to do. The closest she's had to being with two guys was one night in college when she swallowed the cum of her boyfriend and also another guy who she cheated on him with. Another time would be when she went home with a guy she met out at a bar and then upon him telling his roommate how incredible she was at giving head, she blew his roommate the next night. But never two guys at the same time. I'm getting angst about it already.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by william70 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:38 pm

What do you two talk about when discussing the HW LS. You really haven't talked about anal. I thought you and her had long discussions on boundaries. Ask her.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:50 pm

william70 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:38 pm
What do you two talk about when discussing the HW LS. You really haven't talked about anal. I thought you and her had long discussions on boundaries. Ask her.
HW LS means hotwife lifestyle?

Whenever we talk boundaries and the subject of anal comes up, it's a hard no from her and that's the end of it, so there's really no point in going further with that question.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by william70 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:57 pm

Yes hotwife lifestyle.
How far does a "hard no" go if shawn wants it? I suggest a butt plug starter kit. If it's as you say concerning shawns good buddy friends, my guess is there will be others getting tested possibly as we speak. Eventually there will be anal sex talk between some of them. Shawn will certainly want to take her anal cherry brfore he leaves.
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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by hiki » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:58 pm

OMG this weekend is going to be beyond hot! Is the denial idea hers or yours? If things go down on Saturday they will most likely push the time line so you're rushed and will have to defer reclaiming until after you return from her family's NYE party. Then the question becomes, will she want to push the denial one step further and ensure that it is Shawn who "Fucks in" the new year with her in your stead. She might decide to go for a quickie after your party!

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by jasmineb87 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:22 pm

w770 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:22 am

Well when I first got into the fascination of seeing her with another guy, she had a million questions about why and what caused it, etc. I sent her some research anywhere from scientific literature to less academic resources explaining what I thought was going on, so I think she really got a sense of what would turn me on when it comes to the experience.
I don’t suppose you’ve still got links to those have you?

In truth, your post has helped me to realise what it is about this that pushes my buttons about this, but I’m always open to more info (note… for me it’s the whole reclaiming thing.. if I were to explain it very simply.. imagine you’ve lost something you really care about, and then you find it again… a bit like that, but mega amplified, and it’s a ‘controlled’ loss.. like you know you’re going to find it again)

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by Aureus » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:25 pm

william70 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:57 pm
Yes hotwife lifestyle.
How far does a "hard no" go if shawn wants it? I suggest a butt plug starter kit. If it's as you say concerning shawns good buddy friends, my guess is there will be others getting tested possibly as we speak. Eventually there will be anal sex talk between some of them. Shawn will certainly want to take her anal cherry brfore he leaves.
With Shawn's massive dick you definitely want a buttplug before any any anal attempts.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:26 pm

william70 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:57 pm
Yes hotwife lifestyle.
How far does a "hard no" go if shawn wants it? I suggest a butt plug starter kit. If it's as you say concerning shawns good buddy friends, my guess is there will be others getting tested possibly as we speak. Eventually there will be anal sex talk between some of them. Shawn will certainly want to take her anal cherry brfore he leaves.
I don't know, she's never expressed any interest whatsoever in anal and she's never mentioned Shawn bringing it up so that remains to be seen.
hiki wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:58 pm
OMG this weekend is going to be beyond hot! Is the denial idea hers or yours? If things go down on Saturday they will most likely push the time line so you're rushed and will have to defer reclaiming until after you return from her family's NYE party. Then the question becomes, will she want to push the denial one step further and ensure that it is Shawn who "Fucks in" the new year with her in your stead. She might decide to go for a quickie after your party!
Well I was thinking that the big day was going to be Sunday, but now because of Eric's schedule, it looks like Saturday is more likely. But we have to be at Lana's parents by at least 2200 (10pm) so it's going to be a tight schedule. I like your idea of Lana denying me after Shawn and Eric fuck her and then again the day after so that Shawn is the last to fuck her in 2022 and the first to fuck her in 2023 but I don't think I can watch her get tag teamed and avoid reclaiming her right after that. Keep in mind, I still have to drive after the three of them fuck, and I won't be able to drive with a raging hard on lol.

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