It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[TheHammer]

Yikes, Shawn not wanting Eric around is a bit concerning.

Would she be up you two going out to a bar sometime and arriving separately and you can watch her get picked up on and flirt with guys. She should be able to do this without concern for Shawn.

Maybe do another period of no contact after this weekend is over for a few days. She should be willing to do this also.

And no, he can’t cut you off.

Call his bluff and have her tell Shawn it’s a threesome with Eric or a no-some to get a gauge on his feelings.

[TheHammer]

It was sounding good that he was wanting to show her off like a slut but this wrinkle is dangerous for sure. So why is he still sending the Eric is clean messages this morning, it seems there is something you are missing I am not sure what but have that feeling

Agree, sounds like he now wants a girlfriend instead of a slut fuckdoll

[mundyman]

We're about to go out to get some lunch to talk more and then have to get back to work but these are the quick points of the talk so far:

- She loves him
- They told each other they love each other last night and this morning
- They made love last night and this morning instead of "fuck"
- Shawn wants to call off the threesome this weekend because he doesn't want Eric to have her. He also wants me not to make love to her anymore but understands that as her husband, that's not something he can realistically expect and he's fine with the once a week he believes we make love.
- I asked if it's different from the love she feels for me and she said it's very different. We have a solid foundation, a history of 15 years of memories, and he will never compare. She described that the love she has for him is like how she felt in the beginning of our relationship.
- She admitted that it might be NRE and that him moving back to California will be good as it will give her time to evaluate if she's just feeling lust and the excitement of the moment rather than truly being in love with him
- We don't know what this weekend will involve but it looks like no Eric. It's either me watching them on our bed, or we might not see him at all just to give ourselves some breathing room.

Was she emotional with you as she shared this?
Was she defensive or confident in her telling you she loves him, or was she bashful, embarrassed, somewhat hesitant because she didn’t want to hurt your feelings?
What was her body language like?
Did she look you in the eye as she told you she loves him?
Does she want to pursue these feelings with him, or does she it as a real threat to your relationship?
Quite frankly where is her head and heart at?
Yes he is exciting and does things to her you can’t, true the feelings aren’t the same, yet, with him. They are more like at the beginning of your relationship with her, but then those feelings developed into more permanent and lasting feelings. The strands of their feelings and emotions for each other are in the process of weaving together to develop a permanent lasting emotional relationship. And quite honestly it sounds like some of the strands of your relationship are being slowly unwoven.
There is no doubt that there is NRE here, but listening to what he told her about wanting her to break her physical relationship with you is a HUGE RED FLAG. He is now making his play for your wife. He’s about to give her jewelry to wear all the time as a symbol of their relationship. What if it’s a ring? To rival her wedding ring?
One option is that the threesome still happens and there is no speaking of Love or love for each other during it. Shawn and Eric get to use your wife and that’s it. Your wife gets off fucking two hard body dudes with big cocks that please her like you can’t. It’s a gigantic fuck and cum fest and everyone goes home satisfied. Perhaps this is the final time they are together and the final blowout.
However, Personally I think you totally break off this weekend unless you want to hear him make her tell you she loves him more than you. That is an experience I don’t think you two would recover from quickly if ever.
I think you also pull your this stops now card for the weekend at least and begin to seriously reconnect with your wife. You must reassert yourself in your relationship and fight for your wife.
Either that or your wife has a serious discussion with Shawn about what the boundaries are around her heart and the relationship she has with you. She needs to tell him that she’s in it for the fucks and the good times and that’s about it. If that is indeed what she wants.
There are many threads on here from successful vixen/stag couples of the couple pulling the plug on a lover because he developed feelings that were over the line established for the couple.
NRE is normal. Riding the NRE rollercoaster can be fun and exciting for the woman and the her man who gets off on watching his wife go head over heels for her lover. However the couple must know where the line is between NRE and serious committed love. They must be ready to cut the cord if they ever feel their relationship is endangered.
Your wife has come to many forks in the road in her time with Shawn, each choice she has made has been towards developing a stronger deeper relationship with him, often with your encouragement. The next couple of decisions SHE makes will involve her relationship with you, choosing Shawn over you, becoming more permanent with him and not you.
Good luck!!!

[william70]

I get too wrapped up in this shit. I'm going out and do chores.

[Wifesharing]

We say all things in the heat of passion that we might not say in the cold light of day. I have no cuckold experience despite harbouring such a fantasy for a number of years. But I am an old boy (76) so I do have the benefit of some wisdom.
Yes Lana is besotted with his cock at present. And Shawn is besotted with her. But this is transitory. The sexual excitement will inevitably decline. Right now it is not inconceivable that Lana might want to run off with him. But she must also consider where she would be in say 10 year's time when he is only 35 and she is pushing 50.
The best thing is for Eric to continue where Shawn left off.

I agree it is likely just emotional lust and will pass. I don't think she will run off with Shawn either. However there are a lot of signs here that need to be addressed for w770 to be comfortable. Their communication has been great except as we go along there are a few things to consider that show the communication also has a few holes that needs fixed
1. She is selective what she shares with W770 we can see this several times where she only give parts of what happened and later after more discussion give the rest, doubtful its is all of it.

2. Even going pretty far back the first time he watched them together the next morning she didn't mention that at all and the discussion about cheating and telling him 2 or 3 days later caem after that.

3. Even the very first time it is hard to believe that Shawn came up to her apartment and fucked her without knowing how long the husband would be gone without Lana and him having talked about it maybe as simple as her inviting him up.

4. Was the Eric stuff thrown out there to throw W770 off the sent I doubt it but how do we know

I am not a doom and gloom guy, I actually think things can be fine it depends on what W770 really wants out of this and what he can except. There is always risk and you never know fully what is in someone else's mind, but at this point W770 has to see he can not fully trust he is always getting a full open honest picture of what Lana is doing.

[Dharmadude]

After my last post you sent out yours, with Lana admitting she loves him. I just don'[t see it. Lust, yes but love? Maybe I'm jaded by my opinion of dime store so-called doms and their, usually, ridiculous arrogant attitudes, but Lana is way smarter than that.

Him calling off the threesome is also concerning. I think I would lean toward calling off everything. This is just too much, IMO. I still believe this is your new lifestyle, but it has to be one you are both in charge of, and allows what is best for your marriage. That is, and will always be, the most important thing.

Call it off and Lana can't see him again before he leaves for California. He will be pissed and probably try to get her to come down but if she truly values her marriage she will resist.

Agree with the earlier statement. If you allow the threesome this weekend it will not be a "humiliation" scene, it will be a, "See Lana, I AM better than your husband just like I told you I was. You want to be with me. Say it, Lana." And of course she would.

[jasmineb87]

It’s a tough one. With these feelings it’s hard for W to give the “hubby says no” because she may up resenting it.

I definitely think the brakes need pushing. Shawn is actively and openly trying to ruin this marriage now, yet he’s leaving in a few weeks. What an asshole.

For me, the ‘cheating’ and midnight rendezvous need to be halted immediately. W needs to have way more control than he currently does.

It’s a massive night in W and Lana’s relationship. Good luck and keep us posted

[KevDi69]

I hope this all works out for the best for their marriage. Let’s face it, S has been programming her to be in love with him. Repeatedly making her keep her eyes open and focused on his face as she orgasms implants him into her mind as associated with pleasure. Other actions as well. Maybe she is under those spells and needs to be deprogrammed through a no contact break. Of course, the big question is could Lana handle a break? Would she honor a break?

[mundyman]

This!!!!

“The biggest step always seems to be from "Ill never love another man, youre my husband." To, "Yea, i love him but its different." Once the Rubicon has been crossed, its only a small step from "different" to "better."”

Good luck W.
I think the next question to ask Lana, dare I say confront her with is:
“has he brought up to you what happens when/if he moves back to Cali? Has he floated the idea of you going back with him? Has he talked about his future that includes you. Your future with him? Even presented as a fantasy? He had a crazy idea and shared with you that you two some how end up together in Cali, or here on the East coast? What do you two talk about after you fuck and you are sharing your feelings and being honest with each other?”
And most importantly:
If he does talk like that what is Lana’s response to him?
Again Good Luck!

[Dharmadude]

3. Even the very first time it is hard to believe that Shawn came up to her apartment and fucked her without knowing how long the husband would be gone without Lana and him having talked about it maybe as simple as her inviting him up.

I have wondered about this from the very beginning and mentioned it was quite a ballsy move. It has never made sense to me. I wasn't making the claim, nor am I now, that this was not their first time. It was, however, very unconventional to say the least for a first time HW encounter to happen like this.

If it were me, I think I would ask her for more details.

I'm not saying it has got to the point where she needs to choose her marriage or lust-fueled cock, but it has got to that point. I had forgot about the jewelry he wants to give to her. Nope. No way.

[hiki]

Call it off and Lana can't see him again before he leaves for California. He will be pissed and probably try to get her to come down but if she truly values her marriage she will resist.

I'm in agreement with the many posters here who see this having entered the 'hard stop' territory. I hope you both see this as well.

[knight4princess]

I've read this entire thread and it's definitely a hot situation. But I, myself, would be in a panic with this "love" talk. I'm afraid it might have already gotten away from you and it might be too late for you to have enough power over the situation to prevent what may well be coming. I'm hoping a lot of talking and reflection will slow this seemingly out-of-control tobbbagan ride. I wish the very best for you.

[william70]

I see alot said about W and S. Lana is the one who needs to decide what she wants. No matter what is said by either men. This all up to her to figure out her feeling and act accordingly. Of coarse we all hope she makes the right choice.

[JeffBingham]

There is one question I think you must ask Lana: has Shawn ever made any disparaging comments about you behind your back or told her that if she was his wife that he would never share her? That behavior is classic wedging technique designed to drive a wedge between you two in order to get her to see you in a lesser light and him in a better one.

I have actually been thinking about asking you this for a couple weeks now, but after today’s conversation I think you need to do it immediately. And explain why you’re asking and what wedging is. There is a poster here named BigHotMess who used to break up marriages just for fun. He is reformed now and is ashamed of his actions and he chimes in occasionally as a subject matter expert.

[proudhusb217]

I would also strongly advise you to drop the "cheating" game. It won't be fun now to feel there's things she hasn't told you about. She needs to tell you absolutely everything from now on as it happens.

If it was me, I'd want to know if she actually wants to deny you sex at this point. Or if she still needs your reclaiming. I'm not sure denial is a good idea at this point, but it's hard to deny the humiliation would be hot.

[whenwillshe]

Time to pull the plug.
It may be too late but this marriage is on life support.
I thought the Eric thing would be good because it would take the heat out of the Lana/Shawn thing but that looks like the ship sailed.
This is no longer a game.

[william70]

Be interesting to know if Lana felt any guilt what so ever when she thought back about telling S she loved him.

[Seekingmore12]

Please w, stop now, you know he is a dick and thinks little of you.

It’s just a matter of time now, he laid his plan, he is executing it and you may end up left with pieces.

A strong bond with a hotwife is normal in many ways, if the 3rd understands the role they play in their marriage, it can be a beautiful things for all. S does not, he also does not care about consequences, why would he with rich parents coddling him for his life.

Stop, run and find a guy that knows his place…..please

[TheHammer]

Sounds like Shawn gets off on breaking up marriages and I bet he wants his latest conquest complete so the marriage is broken up before he goes back to California

[william70]

Another thing that will be interesting to see is will W be willing to for go or at least cut back his love of being humiliated and denial.
It's always interesting to here a cuck describe the love of reclaiming his wife. But will encourage the wife to deny him. In my mind this allows the wife to totally become addicted to the lovers cock and she doesn't have to go through the motion of reclaiming hubby. Which in turn can cause the wife to increase her emotional dependence on her lover. Thus leaving the husband as nothing more than enabler for the wife to continue this behavior.
Also concerning this lunch time talk. This talk needs alot more time than what one can have over a brief lunch time.

[SomeoneCuckMe]

As someone that has experienced all of this, I say just live. Do what gives you the ultimate pleasure in life and things will fall into place. I lost my girlfriend of 10 years to the lifestyle. Do I regret it? Some aspects but I know what I want in life now and its to be the ultimate cuckold and if she stays, thats perfection. Its what you want. Just get cucked. If she falls in serious love with him, deal with it as it comes bro. Im happy again now and seeking the perfect woman for me who knows the lifestyle. Things will go the way its supposed to but just make sure to put YOU first. Im like you, i love the humiliation and unfortunately, the riskier, the better. Theres no adrenaline like it. I wish you luck and my advice is to just keep being there for her and let them cuck the shit out of you to feed her and his desires as well as yours.

[william70]

IMHO that is just about the worst advice I've ever heard. Apparently wedding vows are meaningless to you.

[SomeoneCuckMe]

IMHO that is just about the worst advice I've ever heard. Apparently wedding vows are meaningless to you.

No. My happiness is everything to me and my partnees too. I dont believe in forcing a marriage if I know someone is truly in love with someone else. Its not at that stage yet and may never will be but if it did reach it, happiness for both parties comes first. Not living in denial.

[william70]

And if denial makes them happy?

[vicouple]

What is now taking place for you is how my marriage ended. Right down to the longer visits and soft pedalling the feelings. I found out later he was constantly having them fantasize about what it would be like to live together during sex, eye contact, etc. If it is the same game, he also will be having her discuss with him all of your non-sexual faults. All part of the wedging (and part of a standard sales technique as it embeds the thought in the person's head)

In the end she left me got pregnant and then when she was pregnant he started cheating on her and they broke up.

As per someonecuckme, I have no regrets as I accept responsibility for my part in what took place.

IMHO, it is up to the two of you to work out the next steps. It sounds like you have better communication in the relationship than we did so I wish you the best.