Reignite the Flame

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by BallSpanking » Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:02 pm

Let's hope you can convince her to stay on a roll, but with an Alpha specimen that gets her juices flowing.
Perhaps this is a good time to set her up with a handsome, well hung, personal trainer, and buy her a dozen personal lessons with him so she can show off her definition, and maybe rub his hardon through his workout suit. I have a feeling Sophia is ready for your encouragement, and that would really give her the nod of her husband's approval she is waiting for.
I also think you would be remiss if you don't start ramping up your pillow talk, and telling her hot stories of scenarios you envision for her, encouraging her, and signaling how approving you are of her newfound exuberance. 😉
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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by myoralannie » Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:41 am

I agree w/ BallSpank, Sophia doesn’t need pushing, but more validation from you is always a good thing. The trainer idea sounds like a winner too. She is lovely.

Annie and I were on your trajectory about a year ago but I did respond w/ a little jealousy, which I totally regret. I have tried to reinforce my support for Annie venturing but it has slowed us down. We are still having a lot of fun w/ the fantasy but I envy were it appears Sophia is heading.

I can’t wait to see more pics, even if they are somewhat tame.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by Meadowcreek » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:00 am

VERY Exciting times indeed. This trajectory, from our experience and many i have read here, is fairly typical.
Only the build-up, that is:)

Absolutely NOTHING typical about your significant others tamp down desires that have been suppressed (as almost all women do in our society after marriage) that are now being reignited. This period will be for you both, in retrospect, arguably the most exciting and transformative, of this crazy and incredible journey.
Yall seem to be a very well adjusted couple and all that goes along with that. So, however it turns out things will probably be fine and it will change you both for the better, individually and as a couple, whatever happens. But right now, Sophia is hypersexual and her mind is racing many moments during the day, in a healthy way (if what you consider healthy is HER imagining having whatever her desires are; young stud, big dick, shared wife, gang bang even possibly)
I always found what was going on in my wifes head to be the most intoxicating thoughts for me. I never knew exactly, because she never would open up completely. It just manifested itself in the moment. And it was completely off the charts HOT. Some know that feeling that get the opportunity for this to happen. Especially if it's a positive one.
I think the same ideas and tact that have guided you so far (patience, perseverance, well-timed nudges), will continue to serve the journey and relationship best.

Lastly, as has been said here a million times and can't be stated too often, communication IS key. When that time is really close, or if it happens before that conversion is broached, there needs to be a what's comfortable and what's not comfortable (although she will be in the drivers seat, as she should be). I completely understand that is not something you need to bring up now, horrible timing for obvious reasons. But the time will come.
(As I type this I'm realizing the timing of rules/expectations/wants and desires in a hotwife dynamic is probably the most time sensitive event a couple could have, outside of the wedding and getting knocked up. And I guarantee you it's a close second!;)

My 2 cents worth to a very interesting build up.
Congrats on a helluva ride so far and much more to come...hopefully!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by QuietHope » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:52 am

Dream Weaver wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:48 am
You say no lines were crossed, fuck that, that dude felt your wife’s pussy through her panties.
I keep thinking about that while I masturbate....
Tryn wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:37 am
Fantastic update!! It’s not often that a post on here gets me hard, but your description of what your did and what your friend did back sure did!
That's f'ing great!
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Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:02 pm
QuietHope wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:40 pm
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=73486&start=50

Soph in Vegas
She is fucking hot!!! Prepare for the day she cuckolds you.
Thank you and I think I am getting there.
Mumfred wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:03 am
That is a great story. So hot!
Thanks!
BallSpanking wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:02 pm
Let's hope you can convince her to stay on a roll, but with an Alpha specimen that gets her juices flowing.
Its been quiet since Vegas but we have a bug going through the family (covid perhaps) which has dampened all activities.
myoralannie wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:41 am
Annie and I were on your trajectory about a year ago but I did respond w/ a little jealousy, which I totally regret.
I appreciate you sharing that kind of advice. I will try to hide inevitable jealousy.
Meadowcreek wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:00 am
VERY Exciting times indeed. This trajectory, from our experience and many i have read here, is fairly typical.
Only the build-up, that is:)

Absolutely NOTHING typical about your significant others tamp down desires that have been suppressed (as almost all women do in our society after marriage) that are now being reignited. This period will be for you both, in retrospect, arguably the most exciting and transformative, of this crazy and incredible journey.
Yall seem to be a very well adjusted couple and all that goes along with that. So, however it turns out things will probably be fine and it will change you both for the better, individually and as a couple, whatever happens. But right now, Sophia is hypersexual and her mind is racing many moments during the day, in a healthy way (if what you consider healthy is HER imagining having whatever her desires are; young stud, big dick, shared wife, gang bang even possibly)
I always found what was going on in my wifes head to be the most intoxicating thoughts for me. I never knew exactly, because she never would open up completely. It just manifested itself in the moment. And it was completely off the charts HOT. Some know that feeling that get the opportunity for this to happen. Especially if it's a positive one.
I think the same ideas and tact that have guided you so far (patience, perseverance, well-timed nudges), will continue to serve the journey and relationship best.

Lastly, as has been said here a million times and can't be stated too often, communication IS key. When that time is really close, or if it happens before that conversion is broached, there needs to be a what's comfortable and what's not comfortable (although she will be in the drivers seat, as she should be). I completely understand that is not something you need to bring up now, horrible timing for obvious reasons. But the time will come.
(As I type this I'm realizing the timing of rules/expectations/wants and desires in a hotwife dynamic is probably the most time sensitive event a couple could have, outside of the wedding and getting knocked up. And I guarantee you it's a close second!;)

My 2 cents worth to a very interesting build up.
Congrats on a helluva ride so far and much more to come...hopefully!
Thank you for every thought-a lot more than 2 cents!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by nocali » Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:24 am

Your wife is turning into my favorite fantasy girl! So sexy. Can't wait for the next update.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by QuietHope » Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:28 am

She sexually texted with Aaron.

I’m a little blown away. It almost feels kind of wrong. He’s in his first few weeks of college and a legal adult, so nothing line-crossing, but he’s the son of friends and we’ve known him for so long. He’s been begging ever since they matched on the dating app and maybe now that he’s away, she felt OK about it? They’ve been texting regularly about how he’s adjusting to college life etc. Hearing about new friends and classes. I’d bet anything Sophia knows more than his parents about his life there. Their friendship has grown, I guess, and there’s been a lot of flirting, too. She has given him advice about girls and he’s texted her photos of himself before he goes out at night and she gives him her approval or advice about his clothes and hair. She’s not hiding anything from me-lets me see everything-although he thinks this is private between them.

They were texting each other late one night when he begged again for her to sext. She said no and then he told her that it didn’t matter anyway-he usually masturbates when they are texting at night regardless of the conversation. He then brought up the idea of texting roleplay. He got her with that. She’s creative and likes the idea of roleplay. We’ve obviously done some ourselves with the dildos etc but she would be into doing more detailed roleplay. I’ve tried it but I’m not good at it-feels silly to me. Anyway, he got her to say she’d try it.

For their first, he wanted to just do a simple roleplay between them, remembering the days back when she would pick him up from school. I have the full text of the conversation, it's a bit lengthy. I could copy and paste and share it all, or do you all just want the Cliff notes?

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by onceacuck » Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:47 am

Full text, please!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by BallSpanking » Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:59 am

This is significant progress!
If we could see the full conversation we might have a better sense of her ... disposition. Awesome news!
Do not give her the sense of any reservations on your part, quite to the contrary, use this in your pillow talk and your own role play.
Get her comfortable with the process. 🙂
I hope this increases your participation in the forum, and eventually migrates from Wannabe to HotWife! 😉
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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by sickman3232 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:05 am

Would love if you posted the whole text!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by leggysman » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:49 am

QuietHope wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:28 am
I’m a little blown away. It almost feels kind of wrong. He’s in his first few weeks of college and a legal adult, so nothing line-crossing, but he’s the son of friends and we’ve known him for so long.
It's a shame you never saw the Alicia and Steve thread! She was a lot like Sophia, also from SF, and also liked them really young. :D Alas, the whole thing turned out to be fake. But it was a fun read for a while.
our hotwife story: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=67232
leggysandy's pics: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=67265

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by QuietHope » Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:22 am

onceacuck wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:47 am
Full text, please!
sickman3232 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:05 am
Would love if you posted the whole text!
The people have spoken. I will clean it up a bit and then post.
BallSpanking wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:59 am
This is significant progress!
If we could see the full conversation we might have a better sense of her ... disposition. Awesome news!
Do not give her the sense of any reservations on your part, quite to the contrary, use this in your pillow talk and your own role play.
Get her comfortable with the process. 🙂
I hope this increases your participation in the forum, and eventually migrates from Wannabe to HotWife! 😉
My initial reaction was mouth open surprise-my honest reaction-but I loved it and she knows it. I thought it was funny too. And I've been very turned on reading and re-reading the conversations. Masturbating openly beside her on the bed reading her texts while she watches a show.
leggysman wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:49 am
It's a shame you never saw the Alicia and Steve thread! She was a lot like Sophia, also from SF, and also liked them really young. :D Alas, the whole thing turned out to be fake. But it was a fun read for a while.
The bay area is famous...(or infamous?)...for having a swinging subculture. I'm aware that should we ever cross the line, there will be options. I'm very curious what kind of people are involved. Movie and TV stereotypes aren't flattering but that can't be realistic. But this is a question for a later day.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by BallSpanking » Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:37 am

I think it is very encouraging that Sophia has seen you turned-on and masturbating to her sexy chat with Adam. She can only surmise from your reaction just how turned-on and supportive you are of their activity.
I suggest you engage Sophia in a sexy-friendly photo shoot of her in different outfits and sensual poses (have some nice wine ready for her to lose a few of her inhibitions)s, and share with her some edited material of her sexiness with identifying details cropped out, or masked. That way she can send some encouraging images to Adam and still preserve a plausible deniability over the identity of the sexy babe in the pics. 😉

PS-
Looking forward to reading their sexting thread!
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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by Mumfred » Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:23 am

QuietHope wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:22 am
The people have spoken. I will clean it up a bit and then post.
Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by QuietHope » Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:57 am

I only made some small edits. Enjoy.

S: I’ve picked you up from school on a day that had been sunny all morning but has now clouded over heavily and begun to rain. I’m wearing a thin white dress, casual. After I get you I do pick up at the lower school and have to run outside in the rain to get J. When I slide back into the front seat of MomV (S’s nickname for her old minivan), I’m drenched. My dress is sticking to me and has become see-through and I feel your eyes on me.

A: I stare at your incredible body but I don’t want to be a perv, so I offer you my sweatshirt.

S: I’m touched by your sweetness and hang the sweatshirt over my shoulders loosely. We chat as the rain worsens. I drop off the other kids, including J who has a playdate with a friend. The rain gets so heavy that I can’t drive and I pull over to the side at the peak of Camino Alto.

A: “What are you doing?”

S: “I can’t see to drive safely. Let's wait it out a bit.” I hand you back the sweatshirt. “That was sweet of you.”

A: “No problem”. I try not to stare at your body but can’t stop.

S: I smile at your staring and for the first time I realize how much you’ve matured. That your crush on me isn’t just a sweet boy’s but a young man’s.

“You’ve been working out a lot…your chest and biceps have really blown up…”

A: “Yeah, I’ve been in the gym more.”

S: I lean over and I squeeze your bicep and smile. “Hmmm..very nice. The girls must be going crazy.” Then my fingers slip down and under your Oxford school shirt and I begin to explore your body.

A: “What are you doing?”

S: “Hey, you get to see my body…I just thought I’d like to see some of yours.” And then I unbutton your shirt and both of my hands feel your pecs. I look you in the eyes and in a swoop, I slide over onto your lap, straddling you. I reach down and slide the seat back and down. Then, I reach down and pull the dress off my body.

“So have you felt a woman’s breasts before?”

A: “No….”

S: I unsnap my bra and let my firm chest breath. I take your hands and place them on my breasts and squeeze. I show you how to move your thumbs over my sensitive nipples. I moan with pleasure.

“That feels so good for me..keep doing that.”

A: “Mrs C…should we really be doing this?”

S: “Do you want to stop?”

A: Shakes head no.

S: I lean over you and pull your head close and lift my breast to your mouth. “Good. Then suck on them please.” I say and my fingers slip through your hair and hold you there. My other hand reaches down and I unbuckle and unzip you, freeing that growing erection.

A: “Oh shit.”

S: My fingers slip around that gorgeous cock and massage you. I pull your head back and kiss your mouth hard. Tongue deep in your throat as I stroke you.

A: (If this were real, I’d have cum by now. Do you want to see how much you’ve turned me on?)

S: (Yes.)

I kiss your neck and chest. Sucking both of your nipples. I lick your young hard abs and tongue your belly button. I slide to my knees and toss my hair back so you can watch as I lean in and lovingly lick that beautiful erection.

A: “Oh fuck” [Aaron sends a dick pic. He’s a good six inches, thick]

S: My tongue slides up and down the soft sensitive underside. Then I slide you between my breasts and squeeze you. Slide you up and down. I watch your face. “I know you’ve liked my breasts for a long time, do you like fucking them?”

A: “Yes”

S. I then go beneath and carefully suck on your balls. Your shaft slides over my face dripping precum on my cheek.

A: Your face is so beautiful.

S: Finally, I take you deeply into my mouth. Lips pressed firm around you. My eyes water as you plunge into my throat and I struggle to breath. But I relax my throat and work my lips down around the base. Lips nestled against the balls. Massage you with my tongue. I look up and our eyes meet, my mouth full of your cock.

A: I’m gonna cum.

S: I take your hands and place them on my head to guide me as you begin to vigorously fuck my mouth. I want to swallow your young hot cum.

A: Oh Shit. I’m cumming.

S: I swallow hard but you cum so much it spills onto my face and chest.

A: Oh fuck oh fuck. I came everywhere.

S: That was OK? You liked?

A: That was fucking amazing! So descriptive! I came so HARD. THANK YOU

S: It was fun.

A: So, did you touch yourself at all?

S: I’m pretty turned on yeah.

A: Would you be up for different fantasies?

S: Like what?

A: What turns you on?

S: Hmm. Multiple guys. Maybe being a hooker for a night. Occasionally have rape fantasies.

A: Holy shit, we could totally do those. Rape would be insane.

S: How are you feeling now? Sleepy?

A: Not at all. I’m still hard AF. [Another dick pic, this time wet with cum, but still very erect]

S: Seriously? Wow. Maybe we should continue then.

A: Continue?

S: I slide up onto your lap after you cum. I reach down and slip off my panty. They’re soaking wet. I push them into your face. “See what you did to me?”

Then, I straddle your lap, reach down, and guide the tip of your erection into me.

A: Holy fucking shit

S: I take your hands and place them on my chest and squeeze. “Keep doing that..” I instruct and then wrap my arms around your neck. I use my thighs to slowly rise and fall on you. Taking you a little deeper each thrust.

A: I’m fucking you.

S: I kiss your mouth deeply. Tongue deep in your mouth. Wet and hot. You’re now getting deep in me. I move to make sure that you hit me just right inside.

“Oh God Yes Aaron! Yes! Yes! Fuck me!

A: Holy shit holy shit

S: My fingers dig into your muscular chest. “I want that young hot cum deep in me! Yes! Yes!”

A: OMG I’m gonna cum again.

S: I scream in passion “Yes!!!” as waves of pleasure roll through me. My body tenses like I’ve been shocked by electricity as a powerful orgasm rips through my body. You feel me tighten inside, squeezing that amazing cock.

A: Cumming.

S: Me too.

A: I can’t believe it, I came again so fast.

S: For me too. I came. For real.

A: That’s amazing.

S: Thank you. Your mind made me cum. I like that. K hasn’t made me cum like that in a while.

A: You deserve that. God I think I love you.

S: That’s sweet but we can’t go there. We’re friends having a little fun.

A: OK, OK. Thank you for this. Please can we again soon? Maybe a rape scene?

S: Sure but I’m going to pass out now. Good night.

A: Good night.



Sorry for that long post but I hope that gives you some idea of who Sophia is and what’s her mindset-perhaps better than me describing her to you myself.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by sickman3232 » Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:15 am

That was incredible to read!! I can see why you've jerked off to it multiple times. She's really good.
Has she sent him any pictures??

If he does get to fuck her, that young stud's going to cum in seconds once he's inside her.
As most of us would..she's beautiful!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by Mumfred » Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:30 am

QuietHope wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:57 am
I only made some small edits. Enjoy.
Christ that is hot. Thanks for sharing

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by BallSpanking » Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:10 am

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by Tryn » Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:41 am

Wow!! Just wow!!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by silky nylons » Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:47 am

That was incredible!!! Sofie is so sexy hot!!! That body!!! I bet he came hard!!! More pics please! Thank you for sharing.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by s3xual_int3lectual » Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:17 am

What an incredibly hot exchange. A woman like Sophie is every young man’s fantasy. A little envious of A… lol
Cannot not wait for more exchanges and to see how this develops!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by Dream Weaver » Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:46 am

leggysman wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:49 am
QuietHope wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:28 am
I’m a little blown away. It almost feels kind of wrong. He’s in his first few weeks of college and a legal adult, so nothing line-crossing, but he’s the son of friends and we’ve known him for so long.
It's a shame you never saw the Alicia and Steve thread! She was a lot like Sophia, also from SF, and also liked them really young. :D Alas, the whole thing turned out to be fake. But it was a fun read for a while.
At first I'm like, what? Then I'm like... there are at least 3 stories in the Bay Area.... wife went for high school senior/college Freshman.

-Anika
- One who's name escapes me but went for Indian high school senior (Alicia and Steve?)
- this one

Must be something in the Hetch Hetchy water.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by QuietHope » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:44 am

I pushed today and it went bad for me.

Went to a Napa winery (yes we do this often) with two of Sophia’s friends who are visiting from out of town. I was a bit of a third wheel as the only guy but they needed someone to stay relatively sober and drive. We’re members of a particularly upscale winey (spent years on a waitlist to join a club that allows us to spend stupid money on wine) that is great to bring friends to. Beautiful views and great wine make for a nice afternoon.

The winery rep assigned to us for our tasting was new to the winery and a young man, late 20’s, shaggy blonde hair, who looks like he works out. Nice, friendly, and even has a graduate degree in winemaking (UC Davis has the Mondavi school). As soon as I saw him, I knew “Russ” was exactly Sophia’s type and I felt a twitch of possible anticipation.

Sure enough, as soon as they sat down, the flirting began. She sat closest to him, he was standing behind a small table, and was super talkative. She didn’t need a sip of wine to start leaning in towards him and I think almost too obviously showing off her cleavage. After a few drinks, she and her friends were laughing hard at his jokes and Sophia was reaching over and touching his arm as if she needed to steady herself from laughing so hard. Maybe because I was relatively sober but I felt like she was overdoing it.

Regardless, they got into a discussion about food pairings with different wines and Russ claimed to be into baking and recommended several different foods to try with different wines we were having. He offered to share recipes. So he and Sophia shared phone numbers and emails. Sophia’s two friends gave me sidelong looks when she did this but they were buzzing themselves, too. When it was time to leave, Sophia bounced towards him and said something about feeling like they bonded too much for a handshake and gave him a tight, long hug.

Later at home, I brought up Russ and she said much of the same kind of thing she always says. He was hot and she was flattered and she knows I like her to flirt and she had fun but it won’t go anywhere and she’s not going to call him and I should give it up etc etc etc. I think I just felt a bit fed up with the same story over and over. A little frustrated that these situations seem to keep happening but never go anywhere. I do enjoy the tantalizing opportunities but the more often that these situations end with a “nothing happened”, they become less tantalizing because I no longer hope that anything more than flirting will happen. I’m tired of waiting. At some point, it has to be “jam today!”

So I made some bitter comments about her being a flirt and it being a bit pathetic looking if she has no intention of it going anywhere and why lead the guy on etc. Newsflash: comments not well received. She had a few choice words for me and I admit they were deserved. In sum, she told me the problem is that I keep harboring these hopes and if I don’t want to be disappointed anymore, the easiest solution is for me to give it up.

So then I asked her point blank if the chance of this happening truly is zero.

She waited a while to answer. I could see her thinking. She answered carefully, speaking slowly. She said the chance is not zero. She’s been tempted and still is. More than once, she said she almost told me that she was going to do it with this guy or that. But she realizes now that the situation is never “just right” and she’s thinking that maybe it's her subconscious way of protecting herself. She knows doing this would have serious ramifications and those scare her and she doesn’t see the need to take such risk with our marriage, our family, our life together.

I didn’t say much at first but she did deflate the anger from me. She obviously loves me and our life together and I’d be a fool to not appreciate and value that. I said that I didn’t think it was the big deal she seemed to think, at least it wouldn’t be for me, but I respect that she may feel differently. I said I thought it would be erotic and fun for us and something that could even bring us closer together. That sexual fulfillment is a good thing, for both of us. But I also said that for me to really enjoy it, it couldn’t be something she “did for me”. She had to want it herself. That desire on her part was a key component of my own fantasy. So if she’s not into it, then there’s no reason to force anything.

We left it at that. Not really sure where it leaves things. Maybe much the same place. We did make love then, no dildos, and it was emotional and loving and very nice.

If this is the love life I’m “stuck with”, I’ll be forever grateful but I think you’ll find my posts in the “wannabe” forum for a while.

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by AZguy425 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:01 pm

While this seems like a setback for you, it is probably more of a realignment of your expectations. In some ways this is just a matter of the psychology of your desires.

Your wife has admitted that she has flirted, sexted, and been tempted to act on her own desires but is afraid of the possible after affects. I think that initially reacting the way you did reinforced that fear more than the desires she also has. However, the way you responded after is no doubt reassuring to her that it can affect your relationship positively also!

I have had girlfriends and an ex-wife that had this dynamic also. I have, like you, been not as successful with my current wife, but the kink and the desire for it are still there. One thing that I might suggest is also subtly raising at the right time that you do not care either whether she does it because she wants to or she does it because you want her to...and equally that you love her if she decides never to do it. She has admitted to another man in the right circumstances being very tempting. If she makes the decision for her then it gives rise to those fears because she is deciding on her own desires to act. However, if she knows its attractive to you for her to do it "because you desire it", it gives her some psychological cover to give in to a man in the right situation and with the right motivation. Then she is not simply giving in to temptation solely for her own desires but is giving into temptation because you wanted it and it turns her on to turn you on.

If she trusts that you are OK with any outcome, then she can let herself be seduced for her or for you. If she knows you like her flirting, and sexting, and getting numbers and continues to do just that then there is always the possibility that she will take it a step further if all options to her are open and met with your approval.

After all, she may have rebuffed you with this guy, but she still does have his number! She's just got to know that no matter what she does, you're supportive!

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by Long Lurker 34 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:13 pm

QuietHope wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:44 am
I pushed today and it went bad for me.

Went to a Napa winery (yes we do this often) with two of Sophia’s friends who are visiting from out of town. I was a bit of a third wheel as the only guy but they needed someone to stay relatively sober and drive. We’re members of a particularly upscale winey (spent years on a waitlist to join a club that allows us to spend stupid money on wine) that is great to bring friends to. Beautiful views and great wine make for a nice afternoon.

The winery rep assigned to us for our tasting was new to the winery and a young man, late 20’s, shaggy blonde hair, who looks like he works out. Nice, friendly, and even has a graduate degree in winemaking (UC Davis has the Mondavi school). As soon as I saw him, I knew “Russ” was exactly Sophia’s type and I felt a twitch of possible anticipation.

Sure enough, as soon as they sat down, the flirting began. She sat closest to him, he was standing behind a small table, and was super talkative. She didn’t need a sip of wine to start leaning in towards him and I think almost too obviously showing off her cleavage. After a few drinks, she and her friends were laughing hard at his jokes and Sophia was reaching over and touching his arm as if she needed to steady herself from laughing so hard. Maybe because I was relatively sober but I felt like she was overdoing it.

Regardless, they got into a discussion about food pairings with different wines and Russ claimed to be into baking and recommended several different foods to try with different wines we were having. He offered to share recipes. So he and Sophia shared phone numbers and emails. Sophia’s two friends gave me sidelong looks when she did this but they were buzzing themselves, too. When it was time to leave, Sophia bounced towards him and said something about feeling like they bonded too much for a handshake and gave him a tight, long hug.

Later at home, I brought up Russ and she said much of the same kind of thing she always says. He was hot and she was flattered and she knows I like her to flirt and she had fun but it won’t go anywhere and she’s not going to call him and I should give it up etc etc etc. I think I just felt a bit fed up with the same story over and over. A little frustrated that these situations seem to keep happening but never go anywhere. I do enjoy the tantalizing opportunities but the more often that these situations end with a “nothing happened”, they become less tantalizing because I no longer hope that anything more than flirting will happen. I’m tired of waiting. At some point, it has to be “jam today!”

So I made some bitter comments about her being a flirt and it being a bit pathetic looking if she has no intention of it going anywhere and why lead the guy on etc. Newsflash: comments not well received. She had a few choice words for me and I admit they were deserved. In sum, she told me the problem is that I keep harboring these hopes and if I don’t want to be disappointed anymore, the easiest solution is for me to give it up.

So then I asked her point blank if the chance of this happening truly is zero.

She waited a while to answer. I could see her thinking. She answered carefully, speaking slowly. She said the chance is not zero. She’s been tempted and still is. More than once, she said she almost told me that she was going to do it with this guy or that. But she realizes now that the situation is never “just right” and she’s thinking that maybe it's her subconscious way of protecting herself. She knows doing this would have serious ramifications and those scare her and she doesn’t see the need to take such risk with our marriage, our family, our life together.

I didn’t say much at first but she did deflate the anger from me. She obviously loves me and our life together and I’d be a fool to not appreciate and value that. I said that I didn’t think it was the big deal she seemed to think, at least it wouldn’t be for me, but I respect that she may feel differently. I said I thought it would be erotic and fun for us and something that could even bring us closer together. That sexual fulfillment is a good thing, for both of us. But I also said that for me to really enjoy it, it couldn’t be something she “did for me”. She had to want it herself. That desire on her part was a key component of my own fantasy. So if she’s not into it, then there’s no reason to force anything.

We left it at that. Not really sure where it leaves things. Maybe much the same place. We did make love then, no dildos, and it was emotional and loving and very nice.

If this is the love life I’m “stuck with”, I’ll be forever grateful but I think you’ll find my posts in the “wannabe” forum for a while.
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- Even if she doesn't take the next step, the fact she dresses the part and flirts as hard as she does and does that in front of friends, in my opinion is pretty darn hot in and of it's self. :up: :up: :D

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Re: Reignite the Flame

Unread post by VwatchesK92 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:09 pm

QuietHope, I read this whole thread last night and it inspired me to create an account and share some of my own progress. You have an amazing story. I hope you and your wife and experience this fantasy and make it your reality. The destination is definitely the journey, but we all want to get to the top of the mountain :P

I’m looking forward to more updates!

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