Getting close?

[bbarnsworth]

The hugs, holding hands, and cheek kisses are leaning into the possibility. Incremental steps, yes. I suspect there's an element of it that she needs to feel she's in love with D before she can really do anything.

[setv4]

Another update: I have been traveling for a couple of days and will be home again on Monday evening late. “D” took my wife out for coffee today and they spent about 90 minutes together. He wrote to me later and said that they had a very nice time together, talking, holding hands and even hugging a little. After coffee, they ran to the food store and picked up some lunch for her son, who came home yesterday to stay with her for a couple of days. When they got back to the house, “D” helped her in with some groceries and then she walked him back to his car, where she hugged him and offered him her cheek for a kiss. “D”had the impression that she was flirting a little with him and lunch. After that, she sent him six different emails, but he did not describe what she said. I later talked to my wife and she was in a very good mood. I told her I was very happy that she and “D” got together and had a good time. She did not mention the after coffee emails at all. Perhaps she will show them to me when I get home. I am not quite sure what to make of all of this, but here is what is clear: (1) My wife knows that “D” and I both want to fuck her together, (2) She has continued to go to coffee “dates” with him while I travel, (3) She apparently wants to continue the relationship, evidenced in part by the multiple emails; and, (4) “D” (who has experience in the lifestyle) has the distinct impression that she is interested.

With all of that said, my wife has become a little coy about her feelings. She has said from time to time that she cannot have sex with another man, and yet she knows my clearly-expressed desire that she consider “D” as a threesome partner. Yet, she continues to keep in communication with him. I am hopeful that she is continuing to move, incrementally at least, toward becoming a hotwife. What do you all think?

Sometimes it's a long trip to get to where you would like it to be...
...my Wife still hasn't completed the journey yet, after all these years of moving forward then dropping back then forward again.But I keep hoping she will someday, but being a bit out of my 60's, with her not far behind me, doesn't really leave us much time to enjoy it once she finally becomes a Shared (Hot) Wife. Lol

Best of Luck in your all fulfilling Your dreams! You look like you are very close to it happening, maybe it will by New Year's Day 2026.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

The hugs, holding hands, and cheek kisses are leaning into the possibility. Incremental steps, yes. I suspect there's an element of it that she needs to feel she's in love with D before she can really do anything.

I think you may be right, BB, and I appreciate your thoughts. I have no problem if my wife loves "D" for two reasons. First and foremost, this is all about her pleasure. If her love of him gives her pleasure, I am happy. Second, he is a genuinely good person and very respectful of us. So, he is deserving of her love. That said, I want to be the number one man in my wife's life. I think that is possible in this situation, i.e., even if she also loves "D." The key, I think, will be having my wife believe it is possible to love more than one man in some differing ways.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Another update: I have been traveling for a couple of days and will be home again on Monday evening late. “D” took my wife out for coffee today and they spent about 90 minutes together. He wrote to me later and said that they had a very nice time together, talking, holding hands and even hugging a little. After coffee, they ran to the food store and picked up some lunch for her son, who came home yesterday to stay with her for a couple of days. When they got back to the house, “D” helped her in with some groceries and then she walked him back to his car, where she hugged him and offered him her cheek for a kiss. “D”had the impression that she was flirting a little with him and lunch. After that, she sent him six different emails, but he did not describe what she said. I later talked to my wife and she was in a very good mood. I told her I was very happy that she and “D” got together and had a good time. She did not mention the after coffee emails at all. Perhaps she will show them to me when I get home. I am not quite sure what to make of all of this, but here is what is clear: (1) My wife knows that “D” and I both want to fuck her together, (2) She has continued to go to coffee “dates” with him while I travel, (3) She apparently wants to continue the relationship, evidenced in part by the multiple emails; and, (4) “D” (who has experience in the lifestyle) has the distinct impression that she is interested.

With all of that said, my wife has become a little coy about her feelings. She has said from time to time that she cannot have sex with another man, and yet she knows my clearly-expressed desire that she consider “D” as a threesome partner. Yet, she continues to keep in communication with him. I am hopeful that she is continuing to move, incrementally at least, toward becoming a hotwife. What do you all think?

Sometimes it's a long trip to get to where you would like it to be...
...my Wife still hasn't completed the journey yet, after all these years of moving forward then dropping back then forward again.But I keep hoping she will someday, but being a bit out of my 60's, with her not far behind me, doesn't really leave us much time to enjoy it once she finally becomes a Shared (Hot) Wife. Lol

Best of Luck in your all fulfilling Your dreams! You look like you are very close to it happening, maybe it will by New Year's Day 2026.

Thanks for your good wishes, Setv4! I just got home a little while ago and my wife is sound asleep. I have not had a chance to talk in person with her about her most recent coffee date. I am hopeful that your prediction - that something is close to happening - is correct. But, I'm also prepared to hear why it is not. That said, the older I get the more I realize that it is more important to pay attention to what people do as opposed to what they say. My wife's actions, at least to me, speak louder than her words. I think she really wants things to become sexual with "D," contrary to what she has sometimes said to me. I hope I'm right and your prediction comes true! Thanks again.

[Tryn]

Are you able to tell if your wife is getting herself off after spending time with him? My wife will usually use her vibrator when she masturbates, so I keep track of its position in the drawer and can tell when she’s used it. Buy her one if she doesn’t have one and then you can use my strategy. I’ve been surprised at how much she denies that she’s gotten herself off, but at least I know some of the times. I haven’t disclosed my strategy to her. I just go along with her lies about it, knowing that I know the truth.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Are you able to tell if your wife is getting herself off after spending time with him? My wife will usually use her vibrator when she masturbates, so I keep track of its position in the drawer and can tell when she’s used it. Buy her one if she doesn’t have one and then you can use my strategy. I’ve been surprised at how much she denies that she’s gotten herself off, but at least I know some of the times. I haven’t disclosed my strategy to her. I just go along with her lies about it, knowing that I know the truth.

That is a very interesting thought, Tryn. In the almost 3 years my wife and I have been together I have never known her to masturbate. That is not to say she hasn't done so, but if she has it has not been apparent to me. I was out of town for five days and got home at midnight last night. This morning we had sex and I used her Magic Wand on her, which she loves, to help get her off. It seemed to be in the same position where I left it before my trip. Of course, she could've used a different toy or her hand. In any event, the only thing I can tell you is that when the three of us have gotten together, she tends to get very horny afterward.

I should also note that my wife and I had a chance to talk a little bit this morning about her coffee date with "D." She seems to have enjoyed herself. I asked her if it would be OK for me to look at her emails with him while I was gone and she didn't hesitate to hand her phone to me. There were at least 15 or more emails between them since their coffee date this past Sunday. In those emails she was pretty flirtatious and he was trying to advance the ball a little bit by suggesting that she would probably really enjoy it if the three of us had a threesome. She did not respond directly to that suggestion, but she did say in a couple of her emails that she enjoys spending time with him.

As I was getting toward the end of reading the emails, my wife said that she really did not feel comfortable with me doing that. She felt like I was invading her "privacy," so I apologized and told her that she was under no obligation to share those emails with me. I respected her privacy, but that I did want to understand what was going on, particularly while I was away. I'm not quite sure what to make of her reaction. I do very much respect her privacy but given the language challenges we have since she does not speak English fluently and I do not speak Thai, I thought it would be easier to just read the email rather than have her describe them to me. After telling me that she felt like her privacy had been breached, she also said that she would let "D" now that he does not have to email her any more since I read all of those emails. I told her she didn't have to worry about doing that. I would just simply not look at them in the future unless she volunteered to share them with me.

I suspect that part of her concern is that I will see that she is being flirtatious and she may feel like that is contrary to what she has told me her interest level is with regard to a more intimate relationship with "D." So, I'm not entirely sure how to construe all of this, but I think I will let nature run its course. What do you all think?

[bbarnsworth]

I think there's still mixed signals here. She wants it, doesn't want it, wants it, doesn't want it.

On being in love with him; yes it is quite possible to be actively, romantically in love with two or even more people at once. It's a common misconception that you can only romantically love one person at a time. Think about it; you can love two parents. You can love multiple children, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Why when it becomes romantic love is it suddenly impossible to love just one? It doesn't make logical sense.

Since we've been married, my wife has had two long term boyfriends in addition to a number of lovers she's had over the years. In both cases, her love for me wasn't any less intense or somehow compromised. I enjoyed her being in love with them because as you note it increased her pleasure in having sex with them. Over time, it became making love, was more sensual and more fulfilling than just pure fucking for the sexual thrill.

As an aside; if I were you I'd do everything in your power to become as fluent in Thai as you possibly can. Work at it every day.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

I think there's still mixed signals here. She wants it, doesn't want it, wants it, doesn't want it.

On being in love with him; yes it is quite possible to be actively, romantically in love with two or even more people at once. It's a common misconception that you can only romantically love one person at a time. Think about it; you can love two parents. You can love multiple children, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Why when it becomes romantic love is it suddenly impossible to love just one? It doesn't make logical sense.

Since we've been married, my wife has had two long term boyfriends in addition to a number of lovers she's had over the years. In both cases, her love for me wasn't any less intense or somehow compromised. I enjoyed her being in love with them because as you note it increased her pleasure in having sex with them. Over time, it became making love, was more sensual and more fulfilling than just pure fucking for the sexual thrill.

As an aside; if I were you I'd do everything in your power to become as fluent in Thai as you possibly can. Work at it every day.

I agree with you, BB! Thanks, as always, for your insightful comments. Or, as I might someday be able to write in Thai without the assistance of Google Translate:

ฉันเห็นด้วยกับคุณ BB ค่ะ ขอบคุณสำหรับความคิดเห็นอันเฉียบแหลมของคุณเช่นเคย.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Quick update: Our prospective threesome partner, “D” is traveling out of the country. He left six days ago and won’t be back for almost two more weeks. He has written to me twice to check in, filling us in on the details of his trip. I don’t know if he has written separately to my wife. My wife is playing it cool - until we have sex and I tell her I want to see “D” cum inside her. She moans, gets very wet and then orgasms (thanks, in part, to the Magic Wand, the big black dildo in her pussy and my cock in her mouth). So, we are in a bit of a holding pattern. If you have any ideas about anything else to keep the embers smoldering, I am all ears!

[aztd]

What happened

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

What happened

Nothing else significant happened at the time I made my last post a few hours ago, other than our friend “D” is traveling for another couple of weeks. That said, my wife made a type of comment this morning that she has never made before. At her request, she joined me and four other male friends of mine at a cigar bar yesterday evening. My buddies and I get together every week for a usually guys-only cigar outing. But, my wife wanted to join me because she knows all of these guys and she likes them, and vice versa. She wore a lovely dress and her makeup looked great (she often doesn’t wear makeup and really doesn’t need to), and I could see that my friends were happy to see her. We all had a nice time and she didn’t say anything else about our get-together until this morning.

She surprised me this morning when she said, “Please don’t be upset with me but I want to tell you about what I noticed when “S” sat down after greeting [her].” I assured her I would not get upset. She continued: “I could see how big his cock and balls are!” And she held her hands several inches apart and picked up an orange as an example of how big his balls are. She even grabbed my crotch as she described what she saw and tried to draw on me how big “S” apparently is. I laughed and assured her I did not mind her noticing at all. She admitted to stealing a few more glances at “S” as we sat there last night.

For context, my wife has never previously said anything else about another man’s appearance, let alone his “package.” I suspect she now feels comfortable enough to mention what she noticed because of our hotwife discussions and her realization that I am not a jealous person. I’ll take her comment as a positive sign. What do you think?

[bbarnsworth]

It is a very positive sign! It's a progression into being able to share with you her innermost thoughts. It shows an increasing level of communication and trust. This is very important, moving forward!

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

It is a very positive sign! It's a progression into being able to share with you her innermost thoughts. It shows an increasing level of communication and trust. This is very important, moving forward!

Thanks for the encouraging comment, BB! I hope you are right. :-)

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

My wife misses “D,” it seems. She has asked me twice in the past couple of days when he is returning from his trip. He will be back in four days. He has written her at least twice in the past three days, and she has shared his messages with me, although she waited two days before sharing the first of his messages. His messages have been very nice and G-rated. He has sent pictures from his trip and has told her that he misses her and that he looks forward to seeing her (and us) when he gets back. She waited to respond to his first message, but when she did she told him that she was happy to know he was having a good trip. Although she didn’t tell “D” that she missed him, the fact that she has asked me when he is getting back suggests that she does look forward to seeing him again.

Also, my wife and I were talking a couple of days ago about “S,” my friend with the apparently large package that my wife noticed. I told my wife that I met “S” earlier that day for a business-related meeting and that I also happened to notice the same thing (although it was truly inadvertent). She smiled and said, “See, I told you!” We both had a good laugh about it. And, yesterday, “S” invited us to join him and his wife for a wine tasting and when I told her she was not clear which of our two friends named “S” I was referencing and I said, simply, “Big Cock S,” at which point she knew exactly which one!

I am glad she feels comfortable speaking openly with me about other men’s “attributes.”

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Time for an update! The last time my wife saw “D” was almost one month ago while I was traveling. Although we have been communicating since then, he just returned this past weekend from a two and one-half week cruise. We finally had a chance to meet him for coffee this morning, so it was great to catch up. When I told my wife yesterday that we were meeting “D” this morning, she did not seem too enthusiastic, but she nonetheless pulled out all of the stops this morning to make sure her make-up looked great. She wore tight black leggings, clogs, a very tight crop top that showed off her large breasts. Her hair was in a pony tail and she wore a cute baseball cap. In short summary, she looked adorable and very sexy.

We spent about one hour with “D” who was clearly very happy to see her again after a long break. And, as the meeting went on, my wife was very happy to see “D” as well. She wanted to take pictures with him and also with me. After our meeting, we all said that we hoped to get together soon, hopefully before my wife and I head out of town in one week for about nine days. Shortly after we got in our car to run some errands after our meeting, “D” sent a very nice email saying that my wife looked “absolutely amazing” and expressing his hope that we can meet before we leave in a week. When I showed my wife his message she was thrilled and immediately said, “Of course.” Although she was interested in seeing him again soon when we talked about it together earlier, once she saw his very complimentary message, her enthusiasm level increased about three-fold.

I previously mentioned to ”D” that, as is true of many women in my experience, attention and validation is very important. A simple compliment like the one expressed in the email from “D” today meant the world to my wife. So, we are hoping to invite him back over to our home sometime this coming week, assuming we can work around our busy schedules. “D” and I continue to hope for the best. I’ll keep this forum updated!

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

I am encouraged to see that my wife and ”D” have been emailing with each other this afternoon. While we were running errands this afternoon, my wife excitedly told me that “D” sent her a message letting her know that he really values his relationship with her and that she looked “amazing” today. Before she read his message to me, she giggled and said, “Perfect! Good, good, good, good, good.” She was clearly very happy. And then she wrote back to him (dictating in Thai to Google Translate). I don’t know yet what she said, but she was pretty excited. And then she talked about us having sex tonight! Is there a connection? If I were a betting man….

We haven’t yet figured out when we will try to meet this week, but we are working on it. As I have reported previously, it is not unusual for my wife to seem pretty excited about moving forward with “D,” only to have her develop second thoughts. For those of you who have experienced the same thing, do you have any thoughts about how I can encourage her to take the next step? I am hoping we can get “D” over here for some more of her great Thai cooking, and he and I have even talked about seeing if we can get her to watch one of her favorite threesome porn movies with us, but that might be pushing things too much. What do you all think?

[setv4]

It sounds very promising, that in the near future, you will have a new Hotwife on your hands. Best of luck moving forward. Wishing the 3 of you the Best!

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

It sounds very promising, that in the near future, you will have a new Hotwife on your hands. Best of luck moving forward. Wishing the 3 of you the Best!

Thanks, Set! “D” is coming over for lunch this coming Wednesday. My wife is a great cook, so she’ll make a Thai dish. I recently sent “D” a threesome porn movie with a large-breasted middle-aged Asian woman and two white guys (i.e., like me and “D”). My wife gets very excited with that movie. I told her a week or so that I shared that movie with him, and she was momentarily distressed, but seemed fine less than a minute later. Depending upon the vibe that day, I am thinking about suggesting that the three of us watch it after lunch. If she says no, that will be the end of that suggestion - at least for that day.

What do you think?

[typerope77]

What do you think?

Watching a porno seems too much too fast considering they have no physical relationship yet. She was distressed hearing you sent it to him, imagine her distress being asked to watch it with him. You need to keep the good vibes rollin and steer clear from pressure. Just my opinion.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

What do you think?

Watching a porno seems too much too fast considering they have no physical relationship yet. She was distressed hearing you sent it to him, imagine her distress being asked to watch it with him. You need to keep the good vibes rollin and steer clear from pressure. Just my opinion.

Thanks for your concern, Typerope! I appreciate it. Actually, my wife and ”D” did kiss pretty passionately and she allowed him to feel her breasts about three months ago (I’ve lost track of the time). She later decided to calm things down a bit, but she has seemingly warmed up again in the past few weeks and has enthusiastically wanted to see “D” and communicate with him. Moreover, she really gets excited watching mfm porn involving middle-aged, large breasted Asian women like her. When we have sex while watching I have often told her that “D” and I want to do that with her and she has on at least two dozen occasions said, “I want that, I want that” right before orgasming. So, that is why the idea of watching a movie with him was considered.

Alas, it did not happen today. We had a work crew at our house repairing some leak damage, so we ended up meeting “D” for lunch at a restaurant instead. Nice lunch, but no movie. We will be traveling from this weekend through the following weekend, so hopefully we will reschedule lunch at our place.

So, with that additional backstory, do you still feel like the movie suggestion is too much? Thanks again for your concern.

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Greetings! There is a bit of an update. My wife and I were on a 10 day vacation visiting friends and family up north. While we were away, my wife and our friend “D” exchanged a few emails and pictures, as did I. On a few nights, while we had sex and I was getting my wife ready to cum, I told her again how much “D” and I both want to fuck her and cum in her. As she has done on multiple prior occasions, she said how much she wants that to happen. On Monday morning, yesterday, right after we got up in our hotel room, my wife asked me to write to “D” to see if he could meet us the today, i.e., the day after we return, for coffee. He enthusiastically said he wanted to do that, so we ended up seeing him this morning. My wife was very happy to see him and a little flirtatious. “D” told me later today that at one point, she glanced at his crotch and could see his erection. She has not yet mentioned that to me.

We will be traveling again in a couple of weeks when my wife accompanies me to a three day business conference on the east coast of Florida. “D” told us that he may be able to meet us while we are away. If that works out, I am hoping that he will spend time with her while I am tied up in business meetings, and perhaps we can all get together for some intimate time at night. Fingers crossed!

[Fearlesspain]

Congrats on the update! Hopefully he'll be able to join you in Florida and you all can have a great time together!

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Congrats on the update! Hopefully he'll be able to join you in Florida and you all can have a great time together!

Thanks, Fearless! My wife told me that she was very happy to get a nice email from “D” today telling her how much he “loves” to see her. I asked to see their exchange. He expressed his hope that we would get together again soon, and she responded that she hoped so as well. She closed her message with a smiling emoji surrounded by hearts. So, I remain hopeful that things are moving (however incrementally) in the right direction.

Assuming “D” is able to meet us during the conference, what advice do you have as to how I should best handle this? He will probably be getting a room in a different hotel. I am thinking to just play it by ear and let nature take its course. But, then again, I can’t help but wonder if there is anything I can or should do to encourage my wife to take the next step (without freaking her out). “D” is a genuine gentleman, and as much as I know he wants to have sex with her, out of respect for her and me, I don’t think he will make a move outside of my presence. So, in light of that likelihood, is there anything you think I should do when all three of us are together? Back in June (I think it was) I encouraged my wife to give “D” a nice kiss when were all together. The two of them did so and it went well, although my wife had some second thoughts later. She recovered quickly, however. I’m open to your suggestions!

[setv4]

Greetings! There is a bit of an update. My wife and I were on a 10 day vacation visiting friends and family up north. While we were away, my wife and our friend “D” exchanged a few emails and pictures, as did I. On a few nights, while we had sex and I was getting my wife ready to cum, I told her again how much “D” and I both want to fuck her and cum in her. As she has done on multiple prior occasions, she said how much she wants that to happen. On Monday morning, yesterday, right after we got up in our hotel room, my wife asked me to write to “D” to see if he could meet us the today, i.e., the day after we return, for coffee. He enthusiastically said he wanted to do that, so we ended up seeing him this morning. My wife was very happy to see him and a little flirtatious. “D” told me later today that at one point, she glanced at his crotch and could see his erection. She has not yet mentioned that to me.

We will be traveling again in a couple of weeks when my wife accompanies me to a three day business conference on the east coast of Florida. “D” told us that he may be able to meet us while we are away. If that works out, I am hoping that he will spend time with her while I am tied up in business meetings, and perhaps we can all get together for some intimate time at night. Fingers crossed!

By any chance, did You or your Wife share any naughty/sexy shots of your Wife, taken during your vacation? If not, see if you can suggest that she consider doing that for him (&you).

[AdventurousCoupleAA]

Thanks, Set! That is an interesting thought. We actually haven’t taken any sexy pictures of my wife, but I will ask her if we can send something R-rated to him. I am quite sure she is not ready to do more than that, but sending a sexy image will prompt “D” to compliment her sexiness. That is sure to score points with my wife! Great idea! Thanks again.